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Katie Gus is here.

She is the Enneagram informed therapist and coach.

It's been on the podcast a couple of times

hi katie thank you for being back with us today oh thanks for having me i always love coming to talk to

you such a true we love having you on i'm the best with the enneagram and i know so many of my listeners

are as well and i initially reached out to you because it kind of

dawned on me when we were going through our topic for this month, which is cobwebs about,

oh my gosh, there are so many parts of the Enneagram that we don't dive into. And that includes the

core fears. And so when I was thinking about cobwebs and just the

enneagram popped into my head because of some stuff that I was going through. And I thought,

this is such an interesting take, like looking at the core fears of each number and how much that

actually is driving our behavior, whether it's conscious or unconscious. So I had texted

you because, you know, I've talked a little bit

about this on the podcast, but I've been going through some somatic therapy, which is life-changing

and just crazy and such an interesting experience. But I went through a bunch of traumatic events

all at the same time. And so it feels kind of crazy when you're like four years later just being able to

talk about things and work on certain things. But that's where I am. And some of it has to do with

this public embarrassment that I had on a reality TV show that I was on. And for listeners that are

new, they might be like, what, I didn't even know this about her. And you've even said, like, I know you're so separate from that that it doesn't even

dawn on me.

But that was a part of my story.

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