The episode you're about to listen to was released back when the mere Christians podcast was called the call to mastery

Now if you love mere Christians, you're still going to love these older episodes because the majority of each

conversation focuses on how the gospel influences the work of our guests. With that disclaimer out of the way, please enjoy the episode. Hey everyone welcome to the call to mastery. I'm Jordan Rayner. This is a

podcast for Christians who want to do their most exceptional work for the glory of God

and the good of others. Every single week on hosting a conversation

with somebody who is following Jesus Christ, apprenticing

themselves to Jesus Christ, and who's also pursuing world-class mastery of

their vocation of their jobs. We talk about

each guest's path to mastering their thing, we talk about their daily habits and

routines, and we talk about how their faith influences the work that they do.

Today I'm going to share a conversation

I recently had with one of my closest friends,

Kelly Stewart, and also one of the most masterful writers I know. Now Kelly writes fiction, so you shouldn't

take my opinion on who's a masterful fiction writer or not, since I don't read much of it. But that claim of being a masterful fiction writer comes

from Kelly and I's mutual friend Doug Gresham, C.S. Lewis's stepson and the

producer of the most recent Narnia movies with Disney and Doug's now

working on this Narnia series with Netflix. Doug read Kelly's book and devoured it

has loved everything that she's written and if that's not a great

endorsement for fiction I don't know what is I could think a few people more qualified to

judge great fiction than the heir to the Lewis estate.

So Kelly and I had a very fun conversation that you're about to hear.

We talked about the epic dinner I had with Doug Gresham in in London and a couple of buddies of mine that led to him loving Kelly's work in her book.

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