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Have you ever asked yourself theology, nerds, what would happen if Jack Caputo, Peter Rollins, got

in an argument about philosophical anthropology and one told the other one they were full of it.

Well, that's going to happen on this podcast because this is the whole bird Christianity podcast

where nerds come to just nerd out with their geek out.

This is a live podcast from subverting the norm.

On it, you're going to hear from Jack Caputo and Pete.

But first, you're going to get to hear the most amazing conversation

I got to have my sidekick,

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