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Keith Erekson: Investigating Latter-Day Saint Rumors and Assumptions

All In

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Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.86.2K Ratings

🗓️ 5 May 2021

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

We’ve all heard them. There are pre-general conference predictions, rumors about certain celebrities investigating the Church, and sensationalized stories from Church history. How can you discern what is real and what’s rumor? On this week’s episode, Keith Erekson, director of the Church History Library, teaches how historians approach corroboration and how you can do the same in your own life.

“If anything, history teaches us to be humble.”

Show Notes

2:15- Why This Matters
 3:30- History Is Not What You Think
 5:51- Myth Vs. Rumor
 9:20- “I Heard”
 13:48- Assumptions
 22:16- Either Or
 26:04- Sensationalized Over Time
 32:33- What’s the Harm?
 44:52- Social Responsibility
 50:36- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

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0:00.0

Before we get into this week's episode, I want to start by saying thank you to all of those who have left reviews over the last week.

0:08.0

From Wednesday to Saturday alone, you left over 70 new reviews and I read every single one.

0:15.0

You are amazing. I especially love the review from Cynthia Asher who wrote,

0:21.0

I'm Jewish, but love listening to this podcast. I find it uplifting, inspiring, and real. To Cynthia and to all of you, thank you so much for spending your time with us.

0:33.0

For months, I have been a little bit concerned about an article going in LDS Living magazine. Not because it's not accurate, but because it is.

0:42.0

You know the quote from Sister Marjorie Paye Hinckley that says she wants to drive up to the pearly gates in a station wagon with a smudge of peanut butter on her shirt?

0:52.0

Well, I hate to tell you this, but there is no proof that Sister Hinckley ever said those words. In fact, a variation of the quote can actually be traced back to someone else.

1:03.0

You can read the whole story now in the May June issue of LDS Living magazine or on LDSLiving.com later this month.

1:12.0

But that is just one example of Latter Day Saint folklore or myth. In his new book, Keith Ericsson seeks to help Latter Day Saints approach stories or information past or present,

1:23.0

the way that church historians do in order to make sure the information is correct before we pass it on to others.

1:31.0

Keith A. Ericsson is an author, teacher, and public historian who serves as the director of the church history library.

1:39.0

He also serves on the editorial board of the church historians press.

1:44.0

This is All-In, an LDSLiving podcast where we ask the question, what does it really mean to be All-In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

1:55.0

I'm Morgan Jones and I'm so excited to have Keith Ericsson on the line with me today, Keith. Welcome.

2:01.0

Thank you. I'm glad to be here.

2:03.0

Well, I am so excited. I spent a good chunk of yesterday reading in your new book, Real Versus Rumor.

2:12.0

And I'm excited to talk about the things that you share. I think it seems to me like there is a kind of purpose-driven mission behind this book.

2:24.0

And so I want to get your thoughts on why you felt like this book was so important to write and why you're passionate about this topic.

2:35.0

Well, you caught me, Morgan. At my heart, I'm a teacher and I have enjoyed throughout my career many opportunities to teach.

2:45.0

And for the past seven years, I've worked as the director of the church history library. And in that context, there have been lots of questions that people have asked about history and church history.

2:59.0

And at the heart of many of them, I identified that knowing how to think about history would be helpful.

3:10.0

And so this book is my attempt to kind of share the secrets of historical thinking.

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