“Keep it” with Kat Rosenfield and Ira Madison III

Past Due with Ana Marie Cox and Open Mike Eagle

Ana Marie Cox, Open Mike Eagle, and Andrew Steven

Society & Culture, Arts, Business, Performing Arts

4.6 • 6.4K Ratings

🗓️ 11 August 2017

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

This week’s episode is a dive into the intra-left culture wars: Who is sufficiently woke, and who gets to tell what stories (about whom)? Segment A [1:31]: New York magazine writer Kat Rosenfield (@katrosenfield) discusses her piece on “The Toxic Drama on YA Twitter” (link below). Segment B [30:32]: Culture critic for The Daily Beast and GQ and #friendofthepod Ira Madison III (@ira) joins to help us figure out what parts of the YA debate are helpful, and how it is and isn’t like the parallel debates over “Confederate” and “Detroit.” There are some digressions. Kat’s piece: http://www.vulture.com/2017/08/the-toxic-drama-of-ya-twitter.html Ira on “Confederate”: http://www.thedailybeast.com/the-game-of-thrones-creators-next-show-sounds-stupid-as-hell Ta-Nehisi Coates on “Confederate”: https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/08/no-confederate/535512/ Ira on “Detroit”: http://www.thedailybeast.com/how-kathryn-bigelows-detroit-erases-black-women The story I sent Ira about how the Confederate flag is back: https://www.buzzfeed.com/henrygomez/the-confederate-flag-fight-is-back?utm_term=.wsBVL9Z6y#.dkwK10mPQ Our glorious sponsors! Texture: WFLT listeners get 14 days free by going to Texture.com/FRIENDS Ziprecruiter.com: List your job for free by going to Ziprecruiter.com/FRIENDS Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hi, I'm Anna Marie Cox.
0:02.8	Welcome to With Friends Like These.
0:05.0	It is a very special episode of With Friends Like These
0:08.2	because I am struggling with head cold.
0:12.4	And prior to the show, I took some cough medicine.
0:15.4	So it's just gonna be a ride.
0:17.5	I'm just gonna warn everybody right now.
0:19.4	Like the interviews are a little bit of a ride.
0:21.8	They are good though, I think.
0:23.7	Maybe you should take some cough medicine yourself.
0:25.9	You might enjoy them more that way.
0:27.9	We are taking on the debates over cultural production
0:33.2	in this show, kind of intra-family progressive fights
0:37.4	over who gets to say what in the pop culture sphere.
0:42.3	We're gonna start with Kat Rosenfield,
0:44.0	who is a writer for New York Magazine.
0:46.7	She wrote a big piece for them this week
0:50.0	about the Y-A Twitter drama over a book called The Black Witch.
0:55.7	And she and I talk about sort of just the fallout
0:59.1	from that piece and why is it important or not important
1:02.2	that people are having this debate over cultural representation
1:05.7	and appropriation in the young adult novel sphere.
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