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I'm Alan Olga, and this is Clear and Vivid, conversations about connecting and communicating.

I think that it was really an effort for me to take a horrific, unbelievably painful, and traumatic experience, and try to do something positive with it.

And I think I felt at the time that I had this bully pulpit, and I had a captive audience, at least for a few minutes in the morning.

And if I could help people understand that this was one cancer that is highly preventable, if it's detected early, that I could spare other families from going through what mine had gone through, and Jay's had gone through, and leaving my daughters without a father at six and two.

Katie Courage's decision to allow her colonoscopy to be broadcast on television was just one highlight in an extraordinary career.

As co-host of NBC's Today Show, and later the first female anchor of a national nightly news program on CBS, her work has been distinguished by her ability to relate to her audience.

Katie, this is such a great thing for me to have you on the show.

Well, it's so exciting for me to be here because truly I'm not just saying this because it's your show, and I'm sitting across the table from you, but you're one of my favorite people on the planet.

So I would do anything for you.

Thanks for having me.

Well, I have you in my book. I don't know if you have me in your book.

What?

Yeah, because the last book I wrote was all about communicating and that of all the things you've done in your life that have been really extraordinary.

When you made your colonoscopy public, that had such a big impression on the whole country and on me too.

Well, I think getting up close and personal with my colon was kind of going to be the first maybe the first line of my obituary on the parade.

But I was thinking that before you must be so sick and tired of hearing about your call.

Honestly, I'm not because people come up to me still Alan and say, I got screened because of you.

And I'm sure many people were saved.

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