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The Dishcast with Andrew Sullivan

Kathryn Schulz On Love And Grieving

The Dishcast with Andrew Sullivan

Andrew Sullivan

Politics, News, Religion & Spirituality

4.6836 Ratings

🗓️ 28 October 2022

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

Kathryn is a staff writer at The New Yorker, where she won a National Magazine Award and a Pulitzer Prize for “The Really Big One,” about a future earthquake that will wreak havoc on the Pacific Northwest. She’s also the author of Being Wrong: Adventures in the Margin of Error, and in this episode we discuss Lost & Found, a memoir about falling madly in love while her father lay dying.

For two clips of our convo — on how modern society avoids suffering, and how weddings can be a metaphor for America — pop over to our YouTube page. Other topics: the familial impact of the Holocaust, immigrant resilience, love at first sight, how deep differences enhance a marriage, the assimilation of gays and lesbians, how Americans deal with trauma, and the pitfalls of writing a memoir.



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0:00.0

The Hi there. We're back this week. I'm in studio again. It's kind of weird because we do so many of these things with our earphones on. I'm looking

0:39.6

at my guest right now. I feel my ears, my little ear, their little ears free in the air,

0:45.9

and that's lovely. My guest this week is Catherine Schultz. She's a staff writer at the New Yorker

0:50.2

where she won the National Magazine Award and Pulitzer Prize, just those two, for the really big one about a future earthquake that will wreak havoc on the Pacific Northwest.

1:02.3

She's the author of two books, Being Wrong, Adventures in the Margin of Error, and Lost and Found, a memoir.

1:09.5

Well, let's leave it at a memoir, and we can talk about it. But it's found a memoir, well, let's leave it as a memoir and we can talk about it.

1:12.6

But it's really a memoir that tackles two of the hugest human questions, death and love, loss and discovery,

1:25.6

and does so in a way because simply the serendipity, if you want to call

1:29.7

it that, of your life brought those two things together like an asteroid in the Earth in a way,

1:36.0

well, that's really not the right analogy. And by the way, the great thing about this book

1:40.7

is its analogies. There are some gorgeous little moments of recognition,

1:47.3

which it really reads like a writer's book, and I admired it, you know, professionally as much

1:55.7

as anything, for its ability to write. I tried doing this thing myself a long time ago,

2:00.3

and I'm going to try and do it again,

2:02.1

if I actually ever get around to starting the book I have a contract for. But I recognize a master

2:09.6

at work when I see it, and that is what this book is, lost and found. Catherine's so great to see you.

2:15.8

It's so strange also to have just read, you know, this incredibly personal thing and then meet you.

2:23.0

It's just the thing about authors is that, you know, you don't expect to suddenly have them in front of you.

2:28.8

You have an idea of them in your head and you've been listening to their stories.

2:31.7

But welcome to the dishcast.

2:33.3

Thank you so much. It's

2:34.4

delightful to be here. Tell me about your father, because that, he, he was the big loss. And it's,

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