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Every new study that comes out, it seems like, is telling us that climate is changing faster or to a greater extent, or impacting us in ways that we didn't know about.

Most of them unpleasant. A few times we get a little piece of good news, but mostly it's pretty negative.

So, to look for hope, to look for the good news, first of all, we have to go out and look for it. It doesn't come to find us.

And so I look for the hope in what people are doing.

Anthony Haino is an extraordinary communicator. About a topic that desperately needs good communicating, the increasingly dire climate crisis that's gripping our planet.

What makes her so special is that she finds a way to connect with people, even people who deny the reality of climate change, and she does it by talking about things that matter to them.

The director of the Climate Science Center at Texas Tech, Dr. Haino is also a leading researcher into the consequences of decisions we make today that have an effect on the livability of the planet in the future.

I'm so glad you're with me today, because I've been anxious all day knowing we were going to talk about this. Is there anything you can tell me to help me calm down?

About climate change in general, you mean?

Yeah.

Yeah. Other things that bother me, you don't have to deal with.

You can just handle climate change. That would be a big improvement.

Yeah, I think you should be a special couch that we can lay on while we have this conversation, right?

The climate crisis couch. It's good. It's a literative.

I like that, yes.

Well, it is true. When we look at the science, it is really hard to see any hope in the science.

I mean, every new study that comes out, it seems like, is telling us that climate is changing faster or to a greater extent or impacting us in ways that we didn't know about.

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