From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, it's The Treatment.

It's The Treatment.

I'm Elvis Mitchell.

It's best not to waste your game in the locker room when you're talking to Kate Winslet.

She's, of course, a bopter winner, Golden Globe winner, and Oscar winner. Her newest project, clearly a project

of passion and love, is an adaptation. Lee, look at the life of the astonishing photojournalist,

and I think shaping force in the early part of the 20th century. talk about how you found the material on the life of Lee Miller, because it comes from Anthony Penrose's book, which we were talking before we got started. We wanted to do a whole show before we got started. Yeah, we did. But there's so much between the lines in that book. And it's a book that, forgive me, saying it felt very British.

There's so much stuff that wasn't said that he couldn't, didn't seem to be able to come

to grips with.

And I think the movie does such a great job of sort of juxtaposing these sensibilities.

Yeah.

So Anthony Penrose Lee's son, he has talked publicly and he's written about the tricky relationship he had with

his mother. She got pregnant just after the war. She was not expecting to get pregnant and she

was blindsided by acute PTSD and it made her a very tricky mother to be raised by. And because Anthony didn't know what

his mother had done during the war at all until after her death in 1977, the book was partly

his account of the facts and obviously displaying beautifully her images,

but also partly his way of piecing together what she had done, how she had gotten herself there,

the experiences she had had and the fear she had felt. But it was also

written partly as a way of him coming to terms with who she really had been. Because he just,

and he even said it the other day, I did a Q&A with him. And he said, after he found all the

material of her work after she had died, he just thought,

my God, I just thought she was a sort of abusive old drunk. And here were boxes in the attic of

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