#KASHMIR: NUKES IN THE BATTLE. RICK FISHER, @GORDONGCHANG, GATESTONE, NEWSWEEK, THE HILL
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John Batchelor
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🗓️ 15 May 2025
⏱️ 9 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBS Eye on the World. |
| 0:08.5 | Here's John Batchelor. |
| 0:11.5 | My good colleague, Gordon Chang at Gordon G. Chang, |
| 0:16.1 | investigating we are the recent conflict between India and Pakistan, |
| 0:24.7 | extending the battle that's raged for decades since the middle of the 20th century, but this time with new high-performance weaponry |
| 0:30.6 | and systems, and lessons learned here, everybody's watching very carefully. There's no |
| 0:37.1 | guarantee that the action is over. The word |
| 0:40.2 | ceasefire applies. However, we welcome Rick Fisher, the senior fellow of the International Assessment |
| 0:46.3 | and Strategy Center. We're going to go right to lessons learned. Rick, what I have confirmed |
| 0:51.5 | these last days by repetition is that the Indian Air Force lost |
| 0:56.4 | three high-performance French warplanes, one high-performance Russian warplane, and perhaps two, |
| 1:03.3 | a Megan and Sukoy, and that the Pakistani Air Force, the only thing that I have is they lost |
| 1:10.5 | perhaps one F-16 of an older variance. |
| 1:14.7 | That's what I have so far. But taking all this into account, we have air defense systems, |
| 1:19.7 | we have threat alerts, and we have that story that continues that there was a strike package |
| 1:26.7 | directed at or near or in the vicinity of the nuclear |
| 1:31.2 | weapon arsenal of Pakistan, so much so there was alarm in world capitals. |
| 1:36.9 | Lessons learned, Rick. |
| 1:38.6 | Good day to you. |
| 1:40.4 | Good day, John. |
| 1:41.1 | Good day, Gordon. |
| 1:43.5 | Lesson number one, John, is that nuclear weapons mattered in this conflict, that both sides could strike each other with nuclear weapons, forced India to constrain its campaign, to tailor its strikes against the terrorist sites, |
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