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🗓️ 25 August 2020
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“I truly believed that we had gotten Bruce Springsteen to commit to this benefit compilation. And so when I went to present that to the group, I went back through my emails and there was no such communication.”
Kasey currently serves as a program coordinator for a recovery services nonprofit in Portland, Oregon. Between around 2004 and 2013, he was best known as a recording artist, releasing a string of three solo albums and two with his band Kasey Anderson and the Honkies.
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0:00.0 | In 2004, District Superintendent Frank Tassone was arrested and charged with |
0:15.5 | embezzling millions of dollars from his Long Island public school system. |
0:19.6 | Now, I am no expert in white-color crime in America, but I am an expert in |
0:26.2 | watching basically everything on HBO, which includes the 2019 film Bad Education |
0:32.2 | based on this case and starring Hugh Jackman as Tassone. The performances |
0:37.4 | are stunning and the story engaging, but the uncomfortable thing about this |
0:40.7 | movie for me wasn't the crime that was committed, although of course stealing |
0:45.6 | as bad. It was the lies that had to be told about the lies in order to not be |
0:51.1 | caught in a lie. The discomfort I feel from these kinds of stories |
0:55.9 | differs from the discomfort I feel watching, say, torture scenes, although of |
1:00.8 | course boys and girls torture is bad. What's different is that I've never |
1:06.2 | once tied someone to a chair and broken their fingers, but I have most |
1:11.6 | certainly lied. Now, of course, lying is bad. It's also something that |
1:18.0 | academics like Dan Arieli from Duke University happen to study. In a lecture I |
1:23.5 | watched, Arieli said of lying, it's not about being bad. It's about being |
1:28.6 | human. At the very end of bad education, there's a scene where Jackman's |
1:33.4 | character finally fesses up to how it all started. It started, he said, with two |
1:39.3 | Greek salads and a couple fountain drinks, I fucked up. I used the wrong |
1:44.2 | card by accident. He planned to settle up on Monday when he returned to the |
1:49.3 | office, but nobody noticed or even cared really. And so he didn't. And that's how |
1:55.3 | it started. Arieli's research about dishonesty shows that the brain reacts very |
2:01.8 | strongly to a first act of lying, but then it adjusts the subsequent lying |
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