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Hi, and welcome back to the Carolyn Markowitz show on IHart Radio.

My guest today is Michael Kaplan.

Michael is the author of the new book, Advantage Players,

which takes a look at people who are in gambling and beyond.

He's also a senior features writer at the best newspaper in the country,

The New York Post, and the gambling columnist for Cigar Officianado.

He has written four other books and has done stories for publication that include

The New York Times Magazine, GQ, and Wired.

Hi, Michael.

So nice to have you on.

Hi, Carol.

It's so great to see you. Thank you for having me.

Our connection story is, I think, very cool. We met playing poker and knew each other for years because

of a long-running poker game in New York City. Shout out to our friend Charlie. Are you still playing?

I do. I do. I mean, it seems a little bit more sporadic because Charlie's always traveling.

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