Welcome to the global phenomenon, surviving the survivor,

where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award-winning journalist,

Joy Waldman.

Huge thanks to Laura from the Oxford Exchange for hosting us here. I just wanted everyone out there to hear this.

The Oxford Exchange,

perhaps the coolest bookstore we have been to.

If you're in Tampa Tampa please check it out and here we go so as they say in the U.S.C.

So on the way over here I have some financial angst in my life so Karm

immediately started talking about some bills I need to take care of I I said, please don't talk to me. And then I brought up the war that's escalating in Israel.

Carm says, I don't want to talk about the war in Israel. She said, please don't talk to me. So we decided to just stay silent for the car ride.

So people accuse us of being shik.

This is not shik.

This is really Carmen I.

We've been on the road a long time so we are feeling the effects of one another on each other

Farm couldn't help herself. So at lunch lunch today which Oxford Exchange was kind enough to actually bring us up here

to eat. Carms new obsession is that I eat too fast.

She said have you always eaten this quickly? And I said, I don't know, I don't really monitor how quickly I eat. And that turned into a story about her own mother who was the first to be fed in her nursing home in Switzerland and the last to finish

her meal to which I said I really don't care. So that was our most recent conversation that is a look into...

I'm trying to educate him.

Yeah, she thinks that eating too quickly is bad for my health. And then totally unsolicited,

she started to tell me about someone in her building,

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