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Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal

Karl Friston: When Studying Consciousness Triggers Derealization

Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal

Curt Jaimungal

Physics, Philosophy, Society & Culture, Science

4.6606 Ratings

🗓️ 21 February 2022

⏱️ 129 minutes

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Summary

Karl Friston (UCL) explains the Free Energy Principle and its perils for consciousness research They explore the relationship between perception, action, and mental health, and offer practical advice for navigating existential challenges.- 00:00:00 - Introduction- 00:07:25 - FEP TOE explained- 00:15:48 - FEP for physicists- 00:18:24 - External world dual to you- 00:24:25 - Senses and actions- 00:36:25 - Marginal likelihood- 00:54:34 - Change evidence or model- 00:58:51 - Eye-touch consciousness demo- 01:03:09 - Definition of "works"- 01:12:45 - Advice on reality- 01:22:45 - Derealization and depersonalization- 01:34:34 - Ego death social lure- 01:37:12 - Acceptance therapy (ACT)- 01:43:09 - Thought loops- 01:53:09 - Preventing existential crises- 01:56:34 - Tea and smoking benefits- 01:59:28 - Beta-blockers and fear extinctionSPONSORS:- Brilliant: 20% off with code TOE - https://brilliant.org/TOE- Algo Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9IfRw1QaTglRoX0sN11AQQ- Algo website: https://www.algo.com/- Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal- Crypto: https://tinyurl.com/cryptoTOE- PayPal: https://tinyurl.com/paypalTOE- Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt- Discord: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs- iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802- Pandora: https://pdora.co/33b9lfP- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e- Reddit: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything- Merch: https://tinyurl.com/TOEmerchRESOURCES:- YouTube link: https://youtu.be/SWtFU1Lit3M- Part 1 with Karl Friston (technical): https://youtu.be/2v7LBABwZKA- http://betterleftunsaidfilm.com Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal features long-form, technically detailed interviews with leading researchers in physics, mathematics, consciousness, and philosophy, exploring topics at the level of active research. For academics, graduate students, and anyone seeking depth beyond popular science. SPONSOR: I personally subscribe to The Economist. TOE listeners get 35% off the annual subscription. No other podcast has this! https://economist.com/TOE FOLLOW: Substack | Spotify | YouTube | Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Recall that you can click on the timestamp in the description to skip this intro as there will be a lengthy introduction.

0:05.7

This episode may be the most important theories of everything video. Namely, we talk about the perils of attempting to understand consciousness,

0:13.1

theories of everything, even the UFO phenomenon. These are aspects which almost no one talks about.

0:18.4

Because of this, I've written some notes, so I'm going to proceed to read.

0:21.6

You'll find that those who think of themselves as gurus tend to believe that almost all their lessons apply to almost everyone at almost all times,

0:29.6

though it doesn't take into account where you may be psychologically.

0:33.6

Certain spiritual teachers or people who consider themselves to be enlightened suggest that you should understand their point of view and if you resist their truths

0:42.3

It's because of deleterious fear and they do so without the consideration of the mental state of you

0:48.3

Also without a conception of salutary fear slash uneasiness this episode serves as a cautionary tale for those who are

0:55.3

seriously trying to investigate fundamental reality. How to identify when you're on a

1:00.0

nourishing track versus being off track, etc. Again, this may be the most important of

1:05.1

all the theories of everything content. The push to not feel fear slash not feel the ego

1:10.5

quote-unquote slash etc. can be dangerous slash not feel the ego quote unquote slash et cetera can be

1:13.2

dangerous not because the lesson is false, though it may be, but because of the social pressure

1:17.3

around those words. In fact, there's a universally frowned upon quality called being egotistical,

1:22.3

ego is embedded in it, and also to be seen as retreating is the same as being seen as being defensive, which is the same as being fearful, which is seen as being lower on the spiritual hierarchy.

1:32.9

Perhaps it's true that you should feel less disquietude about certain facts, though perhaps your disquietude is justified for where you are now, and that's okay.

1:41.6

It's 100% okay. It took me about one year to realize that, in fact, perhaps more than one year,

1:48.0

it took me over one year to realize that these spiritual lessons tend to not have the physics notion of path dependence.

1:54.0

Perhaps you shouldn't uncritically adopt an Eastern practice in a Western world and vice versa,

2:00.0

or perhaps certain truths are dependent on the path that is where you are now rather than being independent of anything

2:05.5

Frankly, it's embarrassing to reveal myself as so selfish and malicious and cowardly and to do so

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