Karine Jean-Pierre: "Independent," Evasion, and the Party She Says Left Her
The Gist
Mike Pesca
4.4 • 3.6K Ratings
🗓️ 29 October 2025
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
Former Biden Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre joins to promote her memoir Independent: A Look Inside a Broken White House Outside the Party Lines—and faces pointed questions about contradictions between her praise for Biden, her criticism of Democrats, and her claim of newfound political independence. Asked what makes her truly "independent," she pivots to abstractions about democracy and compassion, refusing to name concrete policy differences or lessons from 2024. Plus: scarcity and abundance—how prosperity breeds complacency, and why measles could again become endemic in America while poorer nations still fight to get vaccines at all.
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| 0:18.3 | It's Wednesday, October 29th, 2025 from Peachfish Productions. |
| 0:22.4 | It's the gist. |
| 0:23.2 | I'm Mike Peska. |
| 0:24.4 | And it's back. |
| 0:25.6 | Baggy jeans? |
| 0:26.4 | Well, yes, but also diphtheria. |
| 0:29.0 | Headline New York Times, a killer of children. |
| 0:31.2 | Vanquished by a vaccine is resurgent. |
| 0:33.8 | I'll read you a little bit about diphtheria. |
| 0:35.8 | Did not know this about diphtheria caused by bacteria that produce a powerful |
| 0:39.7 | toxin that kill cells, usually in the throat and tonsils, creating a thick gray membrane of dead tissue |
| 0:46.9 | that can grow large enough to block airways and cause suffocation, especially among children. |
| 0:53.7 | Where's diphtheria hitting? The Global South, war-torn lands |
| 0:58.6 | like Somalia and Chad and Sudan, places where people would be desperate to have the vaccine. |
| 1:06.9 | They just can't get the vaccine or their refugees or they're denied the vaccine as a tactic of war. |
| 1:12.9 | In the Global South, we eradicated diphtherial the world over and then watched it come back because of |
| 1:18.9 | civil wars and collapsing health systems. And this is a tragedy that people go undiagnosed. |
| 1:24.3 | Children go undiagnosed or are treated too late. Their parents, like I said, would love to save them. |
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