This is the Hidden Killers podcast with Tony Brewski and continuing coverage of the case against Karen Reed.

The time that you were inside the residence, you did not seek to or ask permission to look around any place other than where you happen to be standing, which is right inside that front door, the family room, sort of adjacent to the kitchen area, correct?

That is correct, yes, sir.

You didn't walk into any adjacent rooms?

No, sir.

No, sir.

Okay.

You didn't walk into any, you didn't search the kitchen area?

I did not, no, sir.

You didn't look through the cabinets or anything like that?

Absolutely not, no. the cabinets or anything like that absolutely not no you didn't look at the glassware absolutely not no you didn't go down to the basement we talked about

that previously correct no absolutely not okay you didn't go out to the garage

no sir don't look around the garage no other than walking in and and

basically where you just described standing while Sergeant

Lank was engaged with Ms. McCabe, you didn't do anything to search the interior of that house

for anything.

No, I wasn't there to search at all.

Okay.

You also didn't subsequent to that, I wasn't there to search at all. Okay. You also didn't, subsequent to that,

you didn't seek or receive a search warrant. No, I did not. Okay. You didn't believe that it was necessary, in your mind, it was necessary to seek a search warrant to search the interior of that

house. That's absolutely correct.

You were aware at the time that you did go into the house that Sergeant Lake had earlier reported at least the possibility that John O'Keefe may have gotten into a fight, correct?

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