This is the Hidden Killers podcast with Tony Bruske and continuing coverage of the case against Karen Reed.

Could I have done something? That was the lying, the moment in court today that cut through the noise,

a kind of moment that didn't need dramatizing or speculation because it came straight from the mouth of the defendant, or at least

according to the witness it did. It was quite a bombshell dropped by someone with no agenda,

no media presence and no reason to embellish, a teenage girl who lived in the house, who woke up that morning to Karen Reed standing in her bedroom,

frantic, shaking, and panicked.

Wednesday morning's courtroom felt different.

After the trial paused the day before due to Reed falling ill.

Things resumed with a kind of focused tension. No sidebars, no legal

wrangling, just a lot of testimony. And what we got was arguably the most emotionally raw

account that we've heard so far. Be sure to press subscribe wherever you're listening to the podcast,

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know in the comments, what you think about this day in the trial of Karen Reid. The courtroom's

live stream went dark for the part when the kids came up intentionally.

The judge made the call to turn off the cameras because the witness was a minor, John O'Keefe's niece, someone who had lived with him for years following the devastating loss of both her parents.

She and her brothers had become, for all intents and purposes, his children.

And that morning, before the sun had come up and before

any cops had arrived at 34 Fairview Road, she found herself face to face with the woman now accused

of killing him. Now imagine this. You're asleep in your bed. It's freezing outside. There's snow

on the ground and you're jolted awake by someone pounding on your door in panic.

That's someone, it's Karen Reed. And she's not calm. She's not composed. She's not gently asking if

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