Kansas Abortion Vote, Midterm Primaries, Codifying Roe, Finland and Sweden in NATO, Pelosi’s Taiwan Visit

The Politics Guys

Michael Baranowski

Politics, News

4.4 • 783 Ratings

🗓️ 5 August 2022

⏱️ 63 minutes

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After discussing Ken’s need for a title like Jay’s, Trey and Ken tackle the recent upset vote in Kansas on the “Value Them Both” ballot initiative. Ken thinks this means that the Democrats will hold or gain seats in the Senate. Trey isn’t sure that it changes the midterm outcomes, but he does see important cleavages inside the Republican Party. Trey argues that it is easier, and more viable electorally, to take positions than to govern. Next they talk more broadly about the primary races across the country. One big question is how well Trump supports did, such as in Arizona. Ken, again, sees this as bolstering Democrats in the midterm. Trey, pointing to the most recent polling data, cautions that given that President Biden is being outpolled by former President Trump. They discuss the meaning of the data and how it applies in Pennsylvania. After that the pair discuss the Senates attempt to codify Roe. The question is: how many votes should the Senate take on various measures to get themselves and the Republicans on the record. Ken argues that they should and they should do so repeatedly in order to maximize their advantage on the social issue. Then it is a brief discussion of the Senates vote to include Finland and Sweden in NATO. They also discuss Josh Hawley’s lone dissenting vote and what, if anything, it means. They close with a discussion of Pelosi’s trip to Taiwan. While they are both in agreement over the value of the trip, they disagree over what they see as the tactic by Biden to isolate the trip. Trey sees it as Biden playing into a view of being weak, while Ken thinks it is strategically smart not to attach the one China policy head on right now. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys. Interested in starting your own podcast? Check out RedCircle, home of The Politics Guys. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:47.5	I'm Trey Orndorf, a political scientist at Oklahoma Christian University,
0:51.2	and I'm joined by the professor of law at Chase Law School, Ken Katken.
0:56.1	Ken, welcome back to the politics, guys.
0:58.1	It is good to be back.
0:59.8	So every, you know, we're coming back a little bit sooner to give Mike and Jay a break,
1:05.5	but you're doing it from, you know, remote locations on both goes.
1:10.4	You know, we had talked a few weeks ago
1:12.1	about maybe your title. I wonder if we don't need to get persistent or I don't know something
1:17.8	about having the grit when the other two hosts can't do it. We really always can. Yeah,
1:23.7	they're not doing it because they're traveling, but I'm traveling and I'm doing it
1:27.9	anyhow.
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