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So boundaries definitely gave me some space to then heal.

Like I needed to push away because it's, you know, it's just because you get better and

you want to heal doesn't mean the attacks aren't going to still keep coming, you know.

So it's kind of giving yourself

some space from that person as much as you can. That was definitely what helped me the most. I was going to ask you that, like to elaborate on that. Like with Keene, what boundaries did you create? Like once you were in recovery. And I mean, I don't know. I feel like he had no boundaries with Sammy and Eric and myself in Mel.

Oh, yeah.

So I'm like, I feel

number once, yeah, no. And I mean, I don't know. I feel like he had no boundaries with Sammy and Eric and myself in Mel.

Oh, yeah.

So I'm like, I remember once.

Yeah, no, definitely.

I remember my sponsor, because telling me like, I want to take away your phone.

Because it was just nonstop getting emails or text messages of, you know, the new thing that he was upset about,

the new thing that I went wrong. And every time I got one, like, I lived in nonstop panic and

anxiety and fear. And so I'd be doing all this great work, healing myself. And then it'd be,

you know, bring it, get a new email of, you know, him sucking me right back into that controlling relationship um so she

actually got to the point where she was like okay between these hours i'm taking away your phone

that you know either that or you turn your email off or you turn your text off from him you put it on

block from you know nine a.m.

to six p.m. And then you have an hour where you deal with his crap. You deal with his drama.

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