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Thank you. Now, let's get into it. Hey, everybody. Welcome to Off the Vine. I'm your host, Caitlin Bristow. And today, the guests that I have brought me a steel rose. We talk about that because it's a little bit of a touchy subject. A little bit of a touchy subject. We definitely get into the unwanted Mohawk that I gave him.

He only agreed to come on this podcast if I had Jameson on the rocks with an orange slice, grilled shrimp, room at 70 degrees.

And so we're really finding out what kind of diva this guy is.

But we had a lot of fun.

We talked about a lot of behind the scenes, what went down when Nick came into the house, the drama, the group dates, and how now your whole life has come full circle and you're a dad of two happily married. Yeah. Joshua. Yes, ma'am. Okay. It's been 10 years. 10 years. When did I actually see you last? Like, have I seen you at like a Bachelor in Paradise wedding or anything? Or has it really been like since? The men tell all. The mental all is truly the last time I saw you. Because I'm thinking about the other guys that I saw that I've interviewed so far. Like Ben, I see Ben H all the time. We like text every week. Like we're friends. Like, like everybody else I've seen since. And I think you're the first person that I haven't seen since. And I just watched back

episode six, which as did you. I had to go downstairs, as I said, and fix my makeup because I

cried. It was such an intense episode. I felt so bad for you.

It was rough.

We're going to get into all of that. I want to actually go back and start at the very beginning

because I don't know these questions about you. I found out just through DMs that you're

a huge diva because you need your whiskey with orange slice and you wanted grilled shrimp at 70 degrees is this just no the room

at 70 the shrimp preferably more than 70 okay I was wondering what the okay is the room

temperature okay I don't know where the tiger shrimp went it's it's um chilling on ice downstairs

I was reading my DMs and I'm like who the fuck is this guy? And then I'm like, I'm pretty sure he's joking. You were being funny, right? Yes. This was very surprising. This makes me happy. Oh, well, I was happy to join you. I realized as I was watching the season back, I'm like, I drank a shit ton of whiskey on that season.

Like,

that was my favorite drink.

Yeah.

I mean,

I still love it.

But I'm such a wine gal. One of the besters there is. And this is a good whiskey I got for you, isn't it? It's very smooth. Okay, so we're like really rewinding here. what was the casting process like for you to get on the show?

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