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Notes from America with Kai Wright

Kai Wright Presents Blindspot Episode 4: Respectability Politics and the AIDS Crisis

Notes from America with Kai Wright

WNYC Studios

News Commentary, Politics, History, News

4.41.5K Ratings

🗓️ 8 March 2024

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

By 1986, almost 40 percent of people diagnosed with AIDS in the United States were either Black or Latino. As the full contours of the crisis became apparent, a group of Black gay men began to organize in cities across the country, demanding attention and support for the people dying in their midst. This effort required them to confront big, important institutions in both the medical establishment and the government — and it meant they had to stare down racism in the broader LGBTQ+ community. But perhaps their most pressing and consequential challenge was the most difficult to name: the rejection of their own community.

As men, women and children within the Black community began falling ill, essential institutions — the family, the church, civil rights groups — which had long stood powerfully against the most brutal injustices, remained silent or, worse, turned away. Why? What made so many shrink back at such a powerful moment of need? And what would it take to get them to step up?

In this episode, we meet some of the people who pushed their families, ministers and politicians to reckon with the crisis in their midst. We hear the words of a writer and poet, still echoing powerfully through the decades, demanding that he and his dying friends be both seen and heard; and we spend time with a woman who picked up their call, ultimately founding one of the country’s first AIDS ministries. And we meet a legendary figure, Dr. Beny Primm, who, in spite of some of his own biases and blindspots, transformed into one of the era’s leading medical advocates for Black people with HIV and AIDs. Along the way, we learn how one community was able to change — and we ask, what might have been different if that change had come sooner?

This episode contains a brief mention of suicide. If you or someone you know is struggling with suicidal thoughts, there’s help available. The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline is open 24 hours a day by calling or texting 988. There’s also a live chat option on their website.

Blindspot is a co-production of The HISTORY® Channel and WNYC Studios, in collaboration with The Nation Magazine.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, it's Kai. A few episodes ago, we did something really special. We opened our

0:09.0

inboxes and asked you to tell us about how HIV and AIDS has touched your life and where you found love, support, and community in the early days of the epidemic.

0:20.0

Boy, did you come with some amazing stories and memories.

0:25.0

Like this.

0:26.0

My name is Bill.

0:28.0

I am a recently retired primary care physician currently living in Portland, Maine.

0:32.0

In 1981, I was a third year medical student at

0:36.0

New Jersey Medical School in Newark. The fascination I felt as a young

0:41.5

soon-to-be doctor on the cusp of a new illness that we didn't

0:46.6

understand was of great interest to me from a scientific standpoint. But I also felt the fear of my own vulnerability

0:57.8

and those around me, realizing that we could also succumb to this virus.

1:04.0

Even though the memories were sad, it is something that needs to be told.

1:08.0

It's still something that's with us and I don't want people to lose the memory of something as

1:14.7

important as the early HIV epidemic.

1:20.5

That request for you to talk to us was inspired by everything I've been hearing since I began reporting the podcast series Blind Spot, The Plague in the Shadows.

1:30.0

It returns to the early days of the AIDS epidemic and tells the stories of people who refused to quietly accept the death they saw around them.

1:40.0

I'd love to share an episode from that series with you now. It's one that touches me closely because

1:45.8

it focuses on the black community's initial response to the epidemic, and it introduces us

1:50.8

to some of the people who turned that response into something more

1:55.2

compassioned and enlightened than where it started. So take a listen. I hope you enjoy and also check out

2:02.0

our show notes for ways to be in touch and help us add to this important history.

2:07.0

I couldn't find the actual first copy where I found a copy of Black A Anthology

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