From the New York Times, this is the interview.

I'm Lulu Garcia-Navarro.

I'd like to invite you into my refuge when it all gets to be too much.

It's a world of bright color, incredible fashion, perfectly choreographed dance moves,

and bullion earworms that bop.

Yep, I'm talking about K-pop.

If you know, you know.

But for those who don't,

South Korean pop, known as K-pop,

is a highly stylized art form

that has a massive global fan base,

giving outsized cultural influence

to the small country where it's made.

The genre stars, known as idols, are trained, often for years, by entertainment companies.

The companies then place the most promising trainees in groups, write and produce their music,

and, some would say, obsessively manage their public image.

It's a structure that works for the idols who make it big,

but it also draws criticism for its grueling

and what some critics call exploitative methods.

One of the biggest stars to come out of that system is Rose.

Born Roseanne Park, she trained for years at one of K-pop's largest agencies,

YG Entertainment, eventually

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