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Behind The Shield

Justin Mahaffey II (The Wildland Firefighter Crisis, Navigating Grief and the Unspoken Toll of Alcohol) - Episode 1190

Behind The Shield

James Geering

Mental Health, Fitness, Health & Fitness

4.9695 Ratings

🗓️ 18 January 2026

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

WildFitLife805 is a family-run business owned by Justin and Jenny Mahaffey. They have five kids and are passionate about challenging themselves to grow. As the driving force behind this Southern California company, Justin has been a wildland firefighter for 15 years. WildFitLife805 was born out of his commitment to growing stronger and building a community. Anyone is welcome — firefighters, athletes, wellness enthusiasts, and fitness beginners. There is a place for every journey in this incredible group of people!

As a firefighter, Justin understands the importance of taking risks the right way. He also understands that risks look different for everyone. To tackle any challenge successfully, you have to be smart about it. You have to have community to back you up. WildFitLife805 is the community you need. It’s a place full of people who are not strangers to facing challenges — people who have won/lost and learned enough to understand that both are worthwhile experiences.

Episode Sponsor:

https://www.carnabunkergear.com/

Transcript

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0:00.0

This episode is sponsored by a company who has truly found a solution to an age-old problem,

0:05.0

and that is KarnerBunker Gear.

0:07.5

One of the most prevalent conversations in the fire service is should we or should we not

0:12.5

train in our bunker gear?

0:14.5

Now, the answer to both is yes.

0:17.0

As most of us are aware, the carcinogens from structure fires of which there are over 260 that are dangerous to human health, not to mention the PFAS and other chemicals that are within our gear from the manufacturing process are factors that we obviously want to minimize.

0:33.5

Now, the other side of the coin is that we do need to train in our gear.

0:37.4

There is no way to acclimatize the heat retention and lack of mobility than to actually wear the gear.

0:43.3

So seeing this problem himself, firefighter and exercise physiologist Ryan Conley

0:48.4

developed a carcinogen-free gear at a much lower cost that can be used in non-IDLH atmosphere and training that does not

0:57.3

require puncture or tear resistance. Now as someone who always trained in gear myself throughout my

1:03.0

career, I wish this technology was around then. And I got to test it personally while coaching my

1:08.9

tactical athlete class a few weeks ago and can testify

1:12.4

that it not only simulates the heat retention of frontline gear, but also the lack of mobility,

1:18.7

which is imperative at operating at a high level on the fireground. Now, some additional benefits

1:23.9

include being able to doff the gear when you do get banged out for a call,

1:28.7

increasing the lifespan of your frontline bunker gear, and then also public education.

1:34.0

Think of the number of times that we allow, for example, school children to wear our gear

1:38.2

when it's infused with all these carcinogens.

1:41.6

So there are so many real-world applications for a fraction of the cost

1:46.1

of IDLH-rated bunker gear. So if you want to hear the whole story behind this, listen to my

1:52.2

conversation with Ryan Conley on episode 1175 of the Behind the Shield podcast, or go to

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