I'm Julia Lungoria, this is the experiment.

We're a show about our unfinished country, telling stories about people navigating our country's

ideals and our contradictions. And last week, Supreme Court Justice Sonia Soto-Mayod

revealed that big changes have quietly been taking place in the highest court of our country.

There's a new set of rules for how justices can ask lawyers questions in the courtroom.

For decades and decades before this, it used to be that justices would just

hype up and ask questions, kind of at random, first come first serve.

But a few years ago, a study revealed that women on the court were more prone to being interrupted.

Now, there's a new order to it all. They'll ask in order of seniority.

So, to mark the passing of these new rules, this week we're re-releasing a story about how things

used to be and the study that made these changes possible. I reported it a few years ago for a

show called More Perfect, hosted by Jad Abumad from Radio Lab, that's all about the Supreme Court.

Here it is.

Okay, ready? Yeah. This is more perfect up Jad Abumad here with Julia Lungoria. Hello. Hello, Julia.

Hi. Okay, so we've been getting this question from listeners. And it's something I've always wondered

to listening to the song. We just heard the Oye Oye. Who is that man who's singing so like

soulfully and rhythmically and we located him? I understand that in your retirement, you might be

doing some dancing. I dance now. At least once a week for about three hours. Alfred Wong,

Marshall of the Supreme Court, from 1976 to 1994. He's a New Yorker, son of Chinese immigrants.

He earned a bronze star medal in World War II. He worked in the White House and he loved to dance.

What style? Ballroom dancing. Where I watch other people dance and steal some of their steps.

I understand too. You've even given a lesson or two at the court? Yes.

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