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Political Gabfest

Justice Alito's Upside Down Flag

Political Gabfest

Slate Podcasts

Politics, Government, News

4.58.3K Ratings

🗓️ 23 May 2024

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito’s right-wing flag-flying; David Leonhardt’s take on A New Centrism; and OpenAI’s use – or not – of Scarlett Johansson’s voice. Here are some notes and references from this week’s show: Jodi Kantor for The New York Times: At Justice Alito’s House, a ‘Stop the Steal’ Symbol on Display; Jodi Kantor, Aric Toler, and Julie Tate: Another Provocative Flag Was Flown at Another Alito Home; Jodi Kantor and Abbie VanSickle: Display at Alito’s Home Renews Questions of Supreme Court’s Impartiality; and Abbie VanSickle: What Do Judicial Rules Say About Alito and a ‘Stop the Steal’ Symbol? V: The Original Mini Series on Prime Video Mark Sherman for AP: Roberts, Trump spar in extraordinary scrap over judges and Mark Sherman and Lindsay Whitehurst: Supreme Court Justices Barrett and Sotomayor, ideological opposites, unite to promote civility David Leonhardt for The New York Times: The Rise of a New Centrism and A New Centrism Is Rising in Washington John Dickerson for Gabfest Reads and New Cold Wars: China’s Rise, Russia’s Invasion, and America’s Struggle to Defend the Westby David E. Sanger Bobby Allyn for NPR: Scarlett Johansson says she is ‘shocked, angered’ over new ChatGPT voice Nitasha Tiku for The Washington Post: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show and Molly Roberts: Scarlett Johansson’s ChatGPT face-off confirms our fears about AI Midler v. Ford Motor Co., 849 F.2d 460 (9th Cir. 1988) on Justia Blake Brittain for Reuters: New York Times denies OpenAI’s ‘hacking’ claim in copyright fight Michael Sainato for The Guardian: Consultant behind deepfaked Biden robocall indicated for Democratic primary scheme Her by Warner Bros. Pictures Here are this week’s chatters: Emily: Hacks on Max John: Lauren Aratani for The Guardian: Majority of Americans wrongly believe US is in recession – and most blame Biden David: 99% Invisible: Towers of Silence Listener chatter from Aaron Tax in Washington, D.C.: Andrea Sachs for The Washington Post: A beloved alley cat now lives in the Watergate. Was she kidnapped, or rescued? For this week’s Slate Plus bonus segment, Emily, John, and David talk about Republican politicians’ answers to the question: will you accept the results of the 2024 presidential election? See Alec Hernandez for NBC News: Here’s what top Trump VP picks say about the 2020 election results – and whether they’ll accept the 2024 outcome; Justin Green for Axios: Listen to Republicans on whether they’ll accept 2024 election results; and Patrick Svitek for The Washington Post: Top Republicans, led by Trump, refuse to commit to accept 2024 election results. In the next Gabfest Reads, David talks with Sierra Greer about her new book, Annie Bot: A Novel. Email your chatters, questions, and comments to [email protected]. (Messages may be referenced by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.) Podcast production by Cheyna Roth Research by Julie Huygen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome the upside down flag edition. I'm getting lots of city cast in Washington, D.C. I am joined by my

0:28.8

dear ones from New Haven, Connecticut, and New York Times magazine in Yale University Law School, Emily,

0:37.0

He David, hey John.

0:39.0

And John Dickerson from CBS's Daily Report from Manhattan. Hello John

0:44.5

Hello David. Hello I'm moving. This week on the Gapfest an insurrectionist flag flew outside

0:51.1

Justice's Alito's house just after January 6th. How bad is that?

0:56.3

Then David Leinhart will join us to talk about the end of neoliberalism and the rise of a new and surprising form of Washington bipartisanship.

1:06.0

And then open AI maybe shot itself

1:10.0

in a virtual foot by releasing a talking AI bot that sounds way too much like

1:14.6

Scarlet Johanson. Did they go too far? Plus we will have cocktail chatter.

1:21.7

Reporters at the New York Times, including Jody Cantor,

1:24.8

the remarkable journalist who helped break the Harvey Weinstein story,

1:28.2

had an extraordinary pair of stories in the Times this week.

1:32.4

First, the Times reported that an

1:34.6

upside-down American flag, the symbol of January 6th insurrectionists, flew

1:39.8

outside Justice Samuel Alito's Virginia House just days after January 6th.

1:45.8

Apparently this was a salvo and a feud with anti-Trump neighbors.

1:50.8

Then yesterday they followed up with reporting that Alito's Beach House in New Jersey

1:57.1

has it recently displayed a flag called the Appeal to Heaven flag or the Pine Tree flag,

2:02.0

which is a flag that has been popularized. the This I would say all falls into the category of deeply unsurprising news given

2:15.1

Alito's political proclivities but still also shocking news. So let us start

2:21.3

Emily just with with maybe a tedious and kind of a relevant question which is did

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