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Woman's Hour

Jung Chang, Labour deputy leader race, Jaysley Beck's mother.

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Personal Journals

4.22.9K Ratings

🗓️ 9 September 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Jung Chang’s Wild Swans, the epic family memoir that followed the lives of Jung, her mother and grandmother through China's 20th century, was banned in mainland China, but was a smash hit worldwide upon publication in 1991. Now Jung’s sequel, Fly, Wild Swans, brings her family’s story up to date. She joins Nuala McGovern.

The Labour deputy leadership race could be an all-woman affair, with all current declarations coming from female MPs. Nuala gets the lowdown from Kitty Donaldson, chief political commentator for The i Paper.

The All Party Parliamentary Group report on PCOS - or polycystic ovary syndrome - has found that women face prolonged delays in diagnosis, fragmented care, and limited access to treatments. The condition is also expected to undergo a name change later this year to more accurately reflect what it is. Nuala hears from Chair of the APPG, Labour MP Michelle Welsh and Caroline Andrews from PCOS charity Verity.

Royal Artillery Gunner Jaysley Beck took her own life in 2021, after filing a complaint against Battery Sergeant Major Michael Webber. He had pinned her down and tried to kiss her at a work social event. An inquest into her death earlier this year determined the Army's handling of the complaint played "more than a minimal contributory part in her death". Webber has now pleaded guilty to sexual assault at a pre-trial hearing, and is awaiting sentencing. Jaysley's inquest in February this year heard that her line manager also harassed her, with the Army failing to take action. Jaysley's mother Leighann McCready and her solicitor Emma Norton, from the Centre for Military Justice, join Nuala.

Janet Willoner, aka the Tree growing granny, has grown more than 4,000 trees in her garden. She forages for seeds, grows them, and they eventually grow in forests in her local area of North Yorkshire. She has been nominated in the BBC’s Make a Difference Awards in the Green category. She speaks to Nuala.

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0:33.7

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0:40.7

Hello, this is Neula McGovern, and you're listening to The Woman's Hour podcast.

0:45.5

It is indeed. Hello and welcome to the programme.

0:48.3

Well, we have the author Young Chang this morning in the Woman's Hour studio.

0:52.6

You might remember her wildly popular book, Wild Swans.

0:56.0

You may have bought one of the 13 million copies that were sold.

0:59.5

Well, now we have the sequel, Fly Wild Swans,

1:02.8

and I'm very much looking forward to hearing more about her life story.

1:06.3

Also today, PCOS, or polycystic ovary syndrome,

1:10.1

it could get a new name. There's a new report that calls PCOS or polycystic ovary syndrome. It could get a new name.

1:12.5

There's a new report that calls PCOS, that particular moniker, medically inaccurate, leading to barriers to care.

1:20.7

And it's just one of the recommendations for the condition, which affects about one in eight women of childbearing age in the UK.

1:29.2

We're going to find out what else the parliamentary group found. Also, we're going to speak to Janet Wilner. She is the

1:35.5

tree-growing granny. She's on track to grow. Get this. 5,000 trees. Now, she didn't tell anyone

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