Juneteenth Special Interviews
The John Fugelsang Podcast
Crossover Media Group
4.8 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 23 June 2025
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Summary
For his Juneteenth Special - John interviews author and journalist Mark Whitaker. They talk about his new book "The Afterlife of Malcolm X: An Outcast Turned Icon's Enduring Impact on America". Next, he speaks with Nourbese Flint who is President of All* Above All and All* Above All Action Fund. They talk about All* Above All’s work to achieve abortion justice and build the political power of voters of color. And finally, John interviews City of Charlotte Council Member Malcom Graham about his new book "The Way Forward: Keeping the Faith and Doing the Work Amid Hatred and Violence". Graham shares a personal journey of loss, grief, and resilience, deeply rooted in the heart-breaking tragedy at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina.
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| 0:00.0 | This is the John Fugel-Sang podcast. |
| 0:07.0 | Welcome back to Serious XM. I'm John Fugel saying. Somewhere on the Beaufort River is Port Royal, which was the key to an island complex that became a humanitarian mission, an experiment that was both a federal |
| 0:26.3 | military installation and a colony for former slaves. |
| 0:30.5 | It was there in Port Royal and the other South Carolina Sea islands. |
| 0:34.6 | African American slaves first worked this soil as free laborers. |
| 0:39.1 | By the end of 1864, there was close to 15,000 freed people living on the islands alongside teams of northern white agents, teachers and businessmen and plantation managers, missionaries. |
| 0:50.0 | And this transformation defied expectations. |
| 0:53.6 | It led to incredible social progress and crushing injustice. |
| 0:57.3 | And it's been criminally undocumented in our schools and Civil War studies. |
| 1:01.7 | Bennett Parton is an assistant professor of history at Georgia Southern University. |
| 1:05.7 | You may have read his stuff in the Washington Post, the LA Review of Books. |
| 1:08.8 | He holds a PhD in History from Yale and he's currently working on a book called Somewhere Toward Freedom, Sherman's March, and the story of America's largest emancipation coming out next year from Simon and Schuster. |
| 1:20.0 | It is a great pleasure to welcome Professor Bennett Parton to Sirius XM. |
| 1:23.0 | Hey, thanks for having me. |
| 1:25.0 | Thank you for joining us. |
| 1:27.0 | This story is fascinating, and I'm so embarrassed by how little of its history I've known. |
| 1:32.0 | You've written about the Port Royal Experiment. I know you did |
| 1:34.3 | your thesis on this. Let me begin with the most basic questions. How did this period of |
| 1:39.6 | history come to fascinate you. Oh, well, I grew up in Georgia, and so when I was a history student who was interested in going |
| 1:49.5 | on and doing graduate work, I knew that I wanted to do some sort of southern history, |
| 1:56.3 | civil war era history. I mean the Civil War is, I mean is the great crucible for |
| 2:01.9 | the US South, especially for the state of Georgia, where I grew up. |
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