Juneteenth: A Fundamentally American Holiday. Plus, the Tyler Perry Lawsuit

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.8 • 11.3K Ratings

🗓️ 20 June 2025

⏱️ 123 minutes

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Summary

It’s Juneteenth, so we brought Dr. Peniel Joseph back to discuss his book, ‘Freedom Season,’ and the activist Robert F. Williams before podcaster Demetria Lucas joins to help break down the Tyler Perry lawsuit. And finally, The Ringer’s Chris Ryan joins to weigh in on the "face of The Ringer" debate. (0:00) Intro (08:52) Tucker Carlson & Ted Cruz (30:34) Dr. Peniel Joseph joins the show (32:39) ‘Freedom Season: How 1963 Transformed America’s Civil Rights Revolution (36:32) The assault on history (47:26) The life of Robert F. Williams (58:14) Demetria Lucas joins the show (59:29) The Tyler Perry lawsuit (1:17:16) The Diddy trial (1:21:17) Chris Ryan & the face of the Ringer (1:35:35) Thoughts on Juneteenth (1:45:38) Pusha T disses Travis Scott Host: Van Lathan Jr. Guests: Peniel Joseph, Demetria Lucas, and Chris Ryan Producer: Donnie Beacham Jr. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Yo, yo, yo, thought warriors.
0:06.3	What is up?
0:08.0	Hilarion is on.
0:09.1	It is I, Van Lathen, Jr.
0:11.3	Rachel is, again, not here.
0:12.9	She's in France, and I won't let you guys know.
0:15.1	She's having a great time in France.
0:17.3	Rachel's having a great time in France.
0:19.1	She's having a French adventure.
0:22.5	So good for her.
0:24.1	Okay.
0:25.4	Donnie's here with me.
0:26.8	Just me and Donnie again.
0:28.2	It's just me and Donnie again.
0:29.8	Ashley is also in Europe.
0:32.7	But it's Juneteenth.
0:33.8	And we really want to give you guys a Juneteenth episode because it was very important
0:38.1	for tomorrow which is you know today if you're listening to the podcast for you guys to be
0:44.3	able to listen to something and we wanted to celebrate Juneteenth together me and Donnie as
0:47.7	friends we want to celebrate together Donnie what's up yeah man happy Juneteenth to you and
0:52.4	the listeners happy belated Juneteenth to you and to the listeners. Happy belated Juneteenth to the Thought Warriors.
0:57.1	Yeah.
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