June 16, 2022: What Luttig will tell the Jan. 6 committee

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🗓️ 16 June 2022

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Today’s Jan. 6 committee hearing is going to be one for the history books, so tune in at 1 p.m. On Wednesday night, we caught up with today’s star witness, Michael Luttig. “America is at war with herself,” he will say. “One war is for the cultural heart and soul of America. The other is a war over America’s democracy.” He will say that “both of these wars must end in peace if America is to go forward.” Today, Luttig is appearing as a fact witness because of his role in the leadup to Jan. 6, when Luttig told then-VP Mike Pence to ignore the advice of John Eastman, a former Luttig clerk who hatched the scheme to persuade Pence to overturn the results of the 2020 election by rejecting electoral votes from states former President Donald Trump lost. Luttig first told the full story of his role on that day in our “Playbook Deep Dive” podcast in February. But what he is planning to talk about today goes beyond his views of the Electoral Count Act and his gripping account of his role on Jan. 6. Subscribe to the POLITICO Playbook newsletter Raghu Manavalan is the Host of POLITICO's Playbook.Jenny Ament is the Executive Producer of POLITICO Audio.

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0:00.0	Presented by Amazon.
0:02.0	Hey, good morning, Playbookers and Rugu Minovalin. It's Thursday.
0:06.0	Today's show, but one-star witness will testify at today's January 6th hearing.
0:10.4	It's her Politico Playbook Daily Briefing.
0:20.5	Last night, we caught up with former federal judge Michael Ludig, today's star witness
0:24.9	at the January 6th committee hearing.
0:27.4	Ludig, you might know, has impeccable conservative credentials.
0:30.6	He's a former federal judge who spent the George W. Bush years, under attack by liberals
0:34.7	who feared that Bush would put him on the Supreme Court.
0:37.3	Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid threatened to filibuster him.
0:40.2	He was a runner-up for nominations that ultimately went to Samuel Lelito and John Roberts.
0:44.9	Usually quick to joke, he was in a serious and contemplative mood.
0:48.3	Today, he'll say, quote, America is at war with herself.
0:51.4	One war is for the cultural heart and soul of America, the other is
0:55.1	a war over America's democracy. He'll say that both of these wars must end in peace if America
0:59.9	is to go forward. Ludig is appearing as a fact witness because of his role in the lead-up
1:04.8	to January 6th, when Ludig told then Vice President Mike Pence to ignore the advice of John
1:10.0	Eastman, a former Ludic clerk who hatched the scheme to Mike Pence to ignore the advice of John Eastman, a former
1:10.9	lewdic clerk who hatched the scheme to persuade Pence to overturn the results of the 2020
1:15.9	election by rejecting electoral votes from state's former President Donald Trump lost.
1:21.0	Today's hearing is about the details of the intense pressure campaign against Pence on January 6th.
1:26.5	Much of today will be devoted to unpacking this line from Vice Chair Liz Cheney's opening statement last Thursday.
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