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Juliette Kayyem on the Baltimore Bridge Collapse and Crisis Management

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4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2024

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

In the early morning on March 26, a Singapore-flagged cargo ship crashed into Baltimore’s Francis Scott Key Bridge. The bridge collapsed, resulting in the death of six of the eight individuals conducting maintenance on the bridge. The incident has disrupted commuter traffic and the transport of hazardous materials, and it has halted shipping traffic at the Port of Baltimore, among other effects.

Lawfare Research Fellow Matt Gluck discussed the bridge’s collapse, how authorities responded to it, and what it all means for the resilience of U.S. critical infrastructure and the state of crisis response with Juliette Kayyem, a professor of international security at the Harvard Kennedy School—who recently wrote a book on disaster management. Was the bridge adequately protected? How should governments and the private sector prepare to both prevent crises, but perhaps more importantly, prepare for the aftermath when they inevitably occur? 

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number of port cities because they're in huge competition with each other to

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bring these ships here because there's a tax base and a commercial base and

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everything that a city wants in terms of a vibrant global economy.

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If you're a port city you're in massive competition with other port

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cities. This is not to say that they're being negligent. It is just their desire

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means that they don't want a lot of friction.

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So no city was built anticipating ships like this in their waterways. So the ships are getting bigger, the bridges are not.

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I'm Matt Gluck, research fellow at Law Fair, and this is the Law Fair Podcast, April 9, 2024. In the early morning on March 26th, a Singapore-flagged cargo ship

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crashed into Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge. The bridge collapsed, resulting in the death of six of the eight individuals conducting maintenance on the bridge.

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The incident has disrupted commuter traffic and the transport of hazardous materials,

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and it has halted shipping traffic at the port of Baltimore among other effects.

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