Hello and welcome to the scriptures are real podcast. This is the podcast where we talk about

elements of the scriptures that have become real to us because we believe that helps us draw more

power into our lives and we need that power. I'm your host, Carrie Mealstein, and I have with me, I think it's safe to say my very favorite guests. I think this is her third time on the podcast, and I'm sure not the last, but my very favorite guest. This is my wife, Julianne. Hi, Julianne. Hi, Carrie. Yeah. This is one of the few where we just get to stand here together

instead of two different people on two different computers or anything else.

So anyway, it's good to have Julianne with us,

and we've introduced her in a number of other podcasts,

but anything you'd like to tell them about yourself?

I'm happy to be here with you,

and hopefully we can enjoy our time together.

Many people may not know.

We actually met at the study abroad in Jerusalem.

And of course, Julianne's been back there several times with me and leads tourists there and all sorts of stuff.

But mostly, she keeps me in line.

That's my job. That's my, the hardest job.

Yeah, yeah, the hardest job she has. And also tries to help me wear clothes that coordinate. But

anyway, all right. So we're going to talk about Daniel today. So why don't you just tell us,

Julianne, some of the things that have been on your mind about Daniel. We've done one podcast episode with Lamar on this. And then Julianne,

I felt like had lots of great things to add. And so let's talk about whatever you'd like to talk

about. All right. Well, I've already listened to that podcast with Lamar and Carrie.

And I think that they did a great job laying things out with the historical content and all laying out the whole book of Daniel.

And before we get started, speaking of the Jerusalem Center, this last, I think, well, anyway, one of these times that we were at the

Jerusalem Center with students, they came up with this really creative name for a, they have this

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