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I'm Charlie Sykes.

Welcome to this episode of To the Contrary podcast. I can guarantee you that among the many, many topics we're going to touch on this morning, we will not be talking about Sidney Sweeney's ad or whether or not her statement that she has good genes is racist. In fact, I would recommend that anyone who actually talks about that, you should

immediately unfollow, unsubscribe, because we are just not going down that rabbit hole.

Welcome back to Julian Zelizer. Appreciate you joining me again. We have a lot to we have a lot

to talk about, including the question, where is the outrage, where is the resistance, and when is the

Epstein thing ever going to go away? So should we just start with that one? Because are we in

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