Julia Angwin on what went wrong at The Markup

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🗓️ 24 April 2019

⏱️ 31 minutes

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The firing of Julia Angwin has shocked the world of tech journalism. Five staffers have resigned in protest, and now the startup she co-founded, The Markup, is in a state of limbo. What went wrong? And what's Angwin going to do next? She sits down with Brian Stelter for a conversation about her uncertain future and the urgent need for investigative journalism about Big Tech. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	ousted in a coup fired from her job.
0:05.0	There have been shocking headlines about turmoil at a tech startup that's been highly anticipated.
0:15.4	And now we're going to get the real full story.
0:18.5	Welcome to this week's Reliable Sources Podcast.
0:20.6	I'm your host Brian Stelter,
0:22.4	and this weekly podcast is our chance to go
0:24.7	more in-depth with media leaders and newsmakers talking about the story behind
0:29.8	the story. And right now there's a big story going on about the markup.
0:35.0	It was described by the New York Times as an eagerly anticipated news site
0:39.0	dedicated to scrutinizing technology and its effects on society.
0:43.4	It hasn't even launched yet, but there's already been an incredible amount of turmoil behind
0:48.9	the scenes.
0:51.0	On Monday night, that's April 22nd, the editor-in-chief Julia Angwin was fired.
0:57.4	The next morning, most of the editorial staff resigned in protest.
1:02.4	Walt Mossberg wrote on Twitter,
1:04.0	the best privacy journalist of our time,
1:06.0	Julia Angwin, was ousted in a coup
1:09.0	from the new news organizations she created.
1:12.0	He says it's an awful situation that will be a
1:14.6	big test for the main funder Craig Newmark. This story is still unfolding but I'm
1:20.8	here now with one of the primary players Julia Anglin herself.
1:25.0	Julia, thanks for joining me.
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