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Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts

Judge Aileen Cannon Closes Trump Mar-a-Lago Classified Documents Case [Preview]

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts

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News Commentary, Politics, Government, News

4.63.1K Ratings

🗓️ 15 July 2024

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

The judge overseeing the stolen classified documents case at former President Trump’s Mar-A-Lago Club has dismissed the case, ruling that Jack Smith’s appointment as special counsel was unconstitutional. This decision will likely be appealed. It’s a big swing, on a Trump trial question that’s very possibly heading on a fast track up to the United States Supreme Court. That sinking feeling is becoming pretty familiar, huh? In a special episode of Amicus for our Slate Plus subscribers, Dahlia Lithwick speaks to Matthew Seligman who had argued for the constitutionality of the special counsel last month in Judge Cannon’s courtroom in Florida. This episode is member-exclusive. Listen to the full version now by subscribing to Slate Plus. By joining, not only will you unlock exclusive SCOTUS analysis and weekly extended episodes of Amicus, but you’ll also access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Or, visit slate.com/amicusplus to get access wherever you listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi this is Dahlia Lithwick, host of Amicus, Slate's Podcast about the courts and the law and the

0:06.6

rule of law and the Supreme Court.

0:08.7

We are releasing a bonus episode for our plus subscribers and I wanted to share some of it with you and well

0:14.6

bonus doesn't quite capture the feeling for this episode lawless is a lot more

0:20.1

like it in a shocking move on Monday morning Judge Aileen Cannon who has been

0:25.0

overseeing the Trump stolen documents prosecution in Florida dismiss the entire

0:29.8

criminal case against the former president on the grounds that Jack Smith, the Special

0:34.7

Council, was appointed unconstitutionally under the Appointments Clause.

0:39.8

Matthew Seligman joined me to explain what just happened. He argued for the constitutionality

0:46.6

of the Special Council in Judge Cannon's federal district courtroom in Fort Pierce, Florida,

0:51.7

just last month.

0:53.0

Matthew is a partner at Strisen-Marr and a fellow at the Constitutional Law Center

0:58.0

at Stanford Law School with a focus on election law, and here is a part of our conversation. Can we just start with

1:06.2

the very very basics and would you outline for us how Jack Smith came to be

1:12.3

appointed what was the case he was trying to bring, what

1:16.5

Jack Smith's role was in this case.

1:19.8

Sure, so Jack Smith was appointed by Attorney General Merrick Garland and he was appointed

1:27.0

to prosecute, to investigate and then potentially prosecute former President Trump and potentially others in relation to two specific

1:36.8

incidents. The first incident is the events leading to January 6th, and the second is the potential unlawful retention

1:46.0

of classified documents by the former president primarily at his home

1:50.8

Maralago in Florida.

1:53.4

And so when the attorney general appointed

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