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Joyce Carol Oates and Gore Vidal: Words Become Me

What It Takes®

Academy of Achievement

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4.6943 Ratings

🗓️ 31 August 2020

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

This is a story about two of the greatest and most prolific writers in post-WWII America, who grew up in dramatically different circumstances. Joyce Carol Oates was a hardworking farm girl from a small rural town. Gore Vidal was born into an elite political family. She is earnest, introspective & soft-spoken. He was supremely confident, sharp-tongued & provocative. Her novels (including Them, We Were the Mulvaneys, Blonde) are often about families and their struggles. His novels (including Myra Breckinridge, Burr, Lincoln) were more commonly about historical figures. Both were recognized with a National Book Award. They talk here about their lives and their approaches to literature. The contrasts are stunning! (c ) American Academy of Achievement 2020

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0:00.0

In this episode we bring you a study in contrasts to writers both literary, both born in the first half of the 20th century,

0:16.4

both winners of the National Book Award, but there the similarities come to a halt.

0:24.0

Here's Joyce Carroll Oates, author of Them.

0:26.5

We were the Mulvaney's, blonde, and her new novel, Night Sleep death, the stars.

0:33.8

I've always been so interested in personal history.

0:37.1

I'm very fascinated by my parents and my grandparents' generations.

0:42.0

I seem to think that they had a

0:44.2

resilience and an integrity that may be somewhat deficient in my own

0:49.0

generation and in subsequent generations as well.

0:52.3

And this is Gore Vidal, author of Myra Breckenridge, Burr, Julian, and Lincoln.

1:00.0

I've lived in the world and taken part and many things.

1:04.4

Outside myself, the problem with most American writers,

1:07.3

they only write about themselves.

1:10.0

And they're not very interesting.

1:12.3

I don't care about why the marriage went wrong.

1:16.2

Why the author left his wife for the old pair of girl

1:21.7

when he did not get tenure at Ann Arbor, which really broke

1:28.7

his heart.

1:29.7

I mean these books should be written on Kleenex and disposed of.

1:37.0

But everybody's been told in the United States that he's interesting.

1:42.0

You're a very interesting person I can just tell. Or my

1:47.0

feelings are most just as good as your feelings. Well that's a fairly true

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