Joy Lawson Davis and Deb Douglas || Empowering Underrepresented Gifted Students
The Psychology Podcast
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🗓️ 23 December 2021
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, I talk to Joy Lawson Davis and Deb Douglas about gifted education. Specifically, we identify the underrepresented population of gifted students and the unique cultural barriers they face. Joy and Deb share their definition of what self-advocacy is and why it’s a skill everyone should have. They give helpful tips and resources for educators, parents, and advocates on how to find and nurture gifted potential. We also touch on the topics of equity, test preparation, IQ, special education, and intersectionality.
Bio
Dr. Joy Lawson Davis is a career educator with over 40 years of experience as a practitioner, scholar, and consultant in gifted education.She holds both master’s and doctorate degrees in gifted education. Dr. Davis has conducted workshops, been a long-term program consultant, and served as a keynote speaker and distinguished guest lecturer in several countries. In 2019 she was awarded the Lifetime Achievement Award from the Supporting Emotional Needs of the Gifted organization (SENG). She is also the author of numerous articles, technical reports, book chapters, and the award-winning book: Bright, Talented & Black.
Deb Douglas has spent her professional career as an educator, first as a high school English teacher, then K-12 gifted resource teacher, director of gifted programming, and International Baccalaureate coordinator. She holds master’s degrees in professional development and curriculum and instruction for gifted learners. She served as president of the Wisconsin Association for Talented and Gifted and member of the National Association for Gifted Children (NAGC) Parent Advisory Board. Deb is a contributor to the quarterly magazine Parenting for High Potential, and is a frequent presenter at state, national, and international conferences.
Together, Joy and Deb co-authored Empowering Underrepresented Gifted Students: Perspectives from the Field.
Website: drjoylawsondavis.com & www.gtcarpediem.com
Twitter: @davis_joy
Topics
01:15 The underrepresented gifted population
04:43 Equity and excellence can co-exist
07:20 How Deb and Joy met
09:00 Test preparation and IQ
12:42 Expanding the definition of giftedness
17:10 Is it possible to become gifted?
20:45 Identifying potential in underrepresented communities
25:33 Education often prioritizes limitations over ability
27:45 What is self-advocacy?
30:34 Normalize giftedness in all communities
41:12 Cultural barriers to self-advocacy
43:22 How to be advocates for gifted students
46:47 Scott’s experience of self-advocacy
48:56 Everyone needs to be a part of the process
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the Psychology Podcast. In this episode I talked to |
| 0:10.2 | Joy Lawson Davis and Deb Douglas about gifted education. Specifically we |
| 0:16.0 | identify the underrepresented population of gifted students and the unique |
| 0:19.5 | cultural barriers they face. Joy and Deb share their definition of what self |
| 0:23.5 | advocacy is and why it's a skill everyone should have and they give helpful |
| 0:27.2 | tips and resources for educators, parents, and advocates on how to find and |
| 0:31.3 | nurture gifted potential. We also touch on the topics of equity, test preparation, |
| 0:36.4 | IQ, special education, and intersectionality. This was a very personal episode |
| 0:42.5 | for me as you will see toward the end. I got quite emotional in this episode, both |
| 0:47.3 | because I think this is an extremely important topic and too many kids are |
| 0:50.5 | falling through the cracks due to our misunderstanding of human potential, but |
| 0:54.4 | also because of my own personal experiences growing up with learning disability. |
| 0:57.8 | This was a really meaningful episode for me. So without further ado I now bring you |
| 1:03.2 | Joy Lawson Davis and Deb Douglas. Joy and Deb thank you so much for coming to |
| 1:07.9 | talk to me today on the Psychology Podcast. Thanks for inviting us. Glad to be |
| 1:11.8 | here with you. So congrats. Thank you so much. Thank you. Yeah congrats on this |
| 1:17.7 | new book. It seems so timely right now. Even more timely, especially in the |
| 1:24.8 | light of the controversy about New York education cutting. Well, they they're |
| 1:30.2 | going to have accelerated programs, but they cut their prior kind of pull out |
| 1:35.4 | programs for young children, right? Based on the grounds that it's the |
| 1:40.8 | inequities in gifted education. So this sets up your book just perfectly, right? |
| 1:45.0 | You know what what who are the underrepresented gifted? Who are what is that |
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