4.7 • 658 Ratings
🗓️ 23 June 2025
⏱️ 92 minutes
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In this episode, we speak with therapist Joy Brooks about spiritual bypassing—how well-meaning spiritual beliefs and practices can sometimes mask or avoid the difficult emotions and wounds we all carry. Drawing on psychology, contemplative traditions, and Joy’s own journey out of charismatic Christianity, the conversation uncovers why confronting pain honestly is essential for genuine growth.
Joy reflects on how communities and individuals alike can unintentionally use faith to silence, dismiss, or rush past suffering—and the emotional costs this often brings. She also explores how the Christian tradition holds resources for facing the “messiness” of being human, embracing vulnerability, and resisting the temptation to perform a polished, “all-good” spirituality.
Following the interview, Nomad hosts Tim Nash and Nick Thorley reflect on their own experiences with spiritual bypassing and the importance of creating safe spaces where questioning and emotional honesty are welcomed rather than shunned.
Interview starts at 14m 19s
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0:00.0 | The |
0:07.0 | The Welcome back to Nomad Podcast. I'm Tim Nash, and this is still Nick Thorley. |
0:40.8 | Good grief. |
0:41.8 | Over the last two episodes, I've failed to make Nick Christian again, even when we got the big guns out, the former Archbishop of Canterbury, Roan Williams. |
0:49.8 | So I thought instead we'd just return to looking at all the ways that Christianity has messed us up. |
0:54.9 | I might be a Christian, Tim. |
0:56.6 | We just don't know, do we? |
0:57.9 | We're not sure. |
0:59.0 | Who knows? |
1:00.0 | Not clear. |
1:00.7 | It's just not clear. |
1:01.2 | No. |
1:01.7 | Today we're talking about spiritual bypassing. |
1:04.1 | But before all that, Nick, why don't you share some of the trivialities of your life with us? |
1:08.2 | Well, I've got a new dishwasher. |
1:10.0 | Yes. Ticking along nicely. |
1:11.7 | Although my kickboards need replacing. |
1:13.7 | So after this, my hoping that Tim might saw my old kickboard in half. |
1:17.0 | So what I can do, mate. |
1:18.3 | I took Chakley to the vets tonight. |
1:20.8 | He's put on five, what's it, below a kilogram? |
1:24.9 | Gram. |
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