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🗓️ 8 September 2022
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How do you solve the question of collective self-government by citizens? Josiah Ober discusses a fundamental problem of democratic societies: how we come to agree on courses of action when we commit to living within a democracy. His argument is that we need to become civic friends, a concept he explains in the conversation.
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0:18.8 | In many ways the world is in a better place politically than ever before. After all, more |
0:24.0 | people live in democracies than ever before. But democracies are under strain. Political |
0:29.6 | partisanship in the United States, for example, has become so extreme that some fear democracy |
0:34.8 | there is in danger of collapse. So how can democracy function and survive? |
0:39.7 | Josiah Ober believed democracy boils down to one essential factor, the acceptance of a kind |
0:45.2 | of bargain. A bargain that requires a special kind of friendship between political opponents. |
0:51.5 | Josiah Ober, welcome to Philosophy Bites. Thanks so much, Nigel. The topic we're going to focus |
0:56.4 | on is the civic bargain. Now, what is that? |
1:00.0 | The civic bargain is at least in my view the answer to how to have democracy survive over time. |
1:10.1 | It basically means that in order to be a citizen and live without a boss, that's the basic |
1:18.9 | definition I use of democracy. You have to be willing to make bargains with your fellow citizens. |
1:26.4 | Before we go into how that might play out, perhaps it's worth separating out democracy from a voting |
1:33.6 | process. Exactly right. Democracy is one of these essentially contested terms that is endlessly |
1:43.1 | debated. My worry is that if we add too much to democracy, if we say that everything that we |
1:51.5 | like about good government or liberalism or the best way to live together under conditions of |
2:00.0 | justice gets lumped into democracy, then we really lose the central feature of democracy, |
2:09.0 | and that is collective self-government by a body of citizens. |
2:15.2 | Collective self-government can occur in many ways, and I think what I was trying to get at |
2:19.1 | is that for many people, democracy is just synonymous with how you get to elect representatives. |
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