Josh Shapiro on How Kamala Harris Can Win Pennsylvania

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🗓️ 16 September 2024

⏱️ 29 minutes

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In 2024, all eyes are on Pennsylvania: its nineteen electoral votes make it the largest swing state, and it’s considered a critical battleground for either or to win the White House. For many years, Pennsylvania trended slightly blue, but the state has become deeply purple—with a divided state House and a series of razor-thin margins in general elections. One notable exception to this was the 2022 Pennsylvania governor’s race. The Democrat Josh Shapiro won by almost fifteen points against a Trump-aligned Republican, and his approval ratings in the state remain high. “To win in Pennsylvania, you’re not winning with only Democrats,” Shapiro told David Remnick. “You’ve got to get like-minded Independents and Republicans.” Shapiro was on the shortlist of candidates for Harris’s pick for Vice-President—which may be the cause of attacks from Donald Trump, including one calling him an “overrated Jewish governor.” He spoke with Remnick to talk about Harris’s of Minnesota’s governor, , as her running mate, and what it takes for a Democrat to win Pennsylvania. “We’re a big state, but we’re still a retail state,” Shapiro said, “meaning you got to show up!”

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0:37.8	from the New Yorker. This is the political scene and I'm David Remnick. In years past we grew accustomed to the state of Florida playing a decisive role in
0:59.7	presidential elections. Then for a while Ohio was one of the bellwethers.
1:04.9	But by 2024, all eyes have become focused on Pennsylvania.
1:10.1	With 19 electoral votes, which ranks fifth in the nation,
1:13.5	Pennsylvania is going to be critical for winning the White House.
1:17.6	For decades, Pennsylvania trended slightly blue,
1:20.9	but it's now deeply purple with a divided state house and a history of razor-thin
1:26.2	margins in general elections.
1:28.5	A notable exception here, though, was the governor's race. Democrat Josh Shapiro won in 2022
1:35.0	by nearly 15 points, a landslide by any accounting
1:39.0	as Governor Shapiro's approval ratings in Pennsylvania
1:42.0	remained sky high. Governor Shapiro's approval ratings in Pennsylvania
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