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Joseph Kony's son escaped his father's militia - now he tells his story

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The Times

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3.91.6K Ratings

🗓️ 1 December 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

In 2012 Ugandan warlord Joseph Kony went viral thanks to Kony 2012, a documentary about his atrocities. He's been on the run ever since. Today, the son who was groomed to be his father's heir tells his story for the first time.

This podcast contains scenes some listeners may find distressing.

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Guest: Richard Assheton, contributor, The Times and The Sunday Times.

Host: Manveen Rana.

Producer: Olivia Case.

Further listening: Inside Haiti: face to face with the gangs ruling a desperate nation - the Sunday Story

Clips: Channel 4, Clevver News, Kony 2012 / Jason Russell / Invisible Children, Inc., The White House / JosephyKony.ogv

Photo: Richard Assheton for The Sunday Times.

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0:00.0

This podcast contains scenes some listeners might find distressing.

0:05.7

From The Times and the Sunday Times, this is the story.

0:10.3

I'm Manvine Rana.

0:13.7

13 years ago, a video appeared online.

0:18.8

The next 27 minutes are an experiment.

0:22.8

But in order for it to work, you have to pay attention.

0:41.5

And people did pay attention.

0:44.4

It was still the early days of social media,

0:48.1

but this video very quickly went viral.

0:54.2

This week, a phenomenon has swept classrooms and campuses in the US, the UK and well beyond.

0:57.5

The top story on most every social media site out there just became so big and so popular, so fast.

1:02.4

But this wasn't a clip of an influencer or a dancing cat.

1:06.9

This was a hard-hitting 30-minute film about Ugandan warlord.

1:12.8

For 26 years, Coney has been kidnapping children into his rebel group, turning the girls into sex slaves, and the boys into child soldiers.

1:22.2

And this is not just a few children. It's been over 30,000.

1:30.8

The first of the kids. few children. It's been over 30,000. The film, Coney 2012, broke records and made its subject infamous overnight.

1:38.9

The warlord Joseph Coney became one of the world's first accidental internet celebrities and public enemy number one.

1:48.7

But despite a global manhunt and a $5 million bounty on his head, he's never been caught.

1:56.7

After more than a decade in hiding, our correspondent sat down for a secret lunch with his son,

2:03.7

who until recently was being groomed to take over from his father.

2:11.6

Well, I'm looking at the local dishes.

2:13.9

Hey, okay.

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