Joseph Goldstein + Mark Epstein On: How To Handle Unwanted Experiences, How Not To Waste Your Suffering & The Overlap Between Buddhism + Therapy

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Dan Harris, Health & Fitness, Mindfulness, Dharma, Mental Health, Meditation

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🗓️ 4 December 2024

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

Buddhist megastars in conversation.

Today, we’re dropping a recording of a live event we held earlier this year, during which Joseph Goldstein and Dr. Mark Epstein came on stage for a fascinating set of conversations. We did this event to celebrate the tenth anniversary of Dan’s first book, also called 10% Happier.

The night was structured like a late night show, so there was a monologue, and live music with the band Mates of State.

Dr. Mark Epstein is a psychiatrist in private practice in New York City, and is the author of a number of books about the interface of Buddhism and psychotherapy, including Thoughts without a Thinker, Going to Pieces without Falling Apart, Going on Being, Open to Desire, Psychotherapy without the Self, The Trauma of Everyday Life and Advice Not Given: A Guide to Getting Over Yourself, and The Zen of Therapy: Uncovering a Hidden Kindness in Life. He received his undergraduate and medical degrees from Harvard University. He has been a student of vipassana meditation since 1974.

Joseph Goldstein is a cofounder of the Insight Meditation Society and the Barre Center for Buddhist Studies, both in Barre, Massachusetts. He is the author of Mindfulness: A Practical Guide to Awakening, A Heart Full of Peace, One Dharma: The Emerging Western Buddhism, Insight Meditation and The Experience of Insight: A Simple and Direct Guide to Buddhist Meditation. Joseph has studied and practiced meditation since 1967 under the guidance of eminent teachers from India, Burma, and Tibet and he leads Insight Meditation retreats around the world.

In this episode we talk about:

The three month solo silent meditation retreat Joseph had just finished
How to not suffer in the face of unwanted experiences
Three exercises for slowing down
Pragmatic applications of retreat practice for life in the real world
How to see outside yourself
How Mark came to Buddhism 50 years ago
The relationship between Buddhism and psychotherapy
The Buddhist concept of the two levels of reality
And a guided meditation from a surprise guest

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Nirvana | Joseph Goldstein

Dr. Mark Epstein On: How To Transform Your Neuroses Into “Little Shmoos”

I Just Did A 10-Day Silent Meditation Retreat With Joseph Goldstein. Here’s What I Learned

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0:00.0	Wondery Plus subscribers can listen to 10% happier early and ad-free right now.
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0:14.0	It's the 10% Happier podcast.
0:16.6	I'm Dan Harris.
0:34.6	Hey, gang. Have you ever had an experience where simply reframing an issue or a problem puts the whole thing into an entirely different and much more helpful
0:39.5	light. For example, reframing anxiety as excitement or reframing failure as experimentation, an
0:46.8	opportunity to learn. Here's one of my favorites, and it comes from the great meditation teacher
0:52.1	Joseph Goldstein. Don't waste your suffering.
0:56.3	We all suffer. We all have shitty things that happen to us. There's no getting around that.
1:00.9	But can we use these moments to be mindful, to be curious, to wake up?
1:05.7	I love this because it's reframing suffering as an opportunity to practice.
1:11.8	This is just one of many, many wisdom bombs that you're about to hear from Joseph
1:17.3	in this very special episode of the 10% Happier podcast.
1:21.3	Today we're dropping a recording of a live event that we held a few months back,
1:26.1	during which Joseph and another huge teacher in my life,
1:29.3	Dr. Mark Epstein, the Buddhist psychotherapist, came on stage for a fascinating set of conversations.
1:35.7	We did this event to celebrate the 10th anniversary of my first book, also called 10% Happier,
1:41.1	and we are bringing you the recording now. It was a great night. We structured
1:46.1	it like a late night show. I've always wanted to be a late night host. So there was a monologue
1:51.8	and a band, my old friends, Mates of State, who members Jason Hamill and Corey Gardner,
1:57.6	you will here participate in some of the banter with the guests, although we are not
2:02.0	playing much of their music because we wanted to make sure that the episode really was about the
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