From Gimlet Media, this is The Knives.

A podcast about black culture from Blackness's biggest fans.

I'm Brittany Luce.

And I'm Eric Eddick.

I just want to prep everyone up front.

And I want to let you know that today's show is going to be a controversial one.

We're going to talk about a pretty big topic that we've only just, I think, skirted around in previous episodes.

But it's a topic that it's unfortunately connected to many different aspects of Black public life.

Today, we're going to talk about that infamous Calabasus click, the Kardashians.

I think it's safe to say that the Kardashians relationship to Blackness is fraught and parasitic at best.

But today, we're going to talk about their relationships to actual Black people, specifically about the family's connection to one particular Black woman, Jordan Woods.

So Jordan Woods was essentially the Kardashian family insider. Like she knew all the secrets.

She knew where the bodies were buried.

She knew where the buttons were purchased.

Where the original Kanye is.

So as I'm sure most of you now know, the Kardashian sisters have gotten into a major feud with their now former friend, Jordan over, you know, what else?

Mandrauma.

Basically, Jordan was kissing one of their boyfriends and the story blew up.

It was all over the media from the shade room to Fox News.

And Jordan's reputation took a major hit and the Kardashians basically excommunicated Jordan from their circle. Like it was brutal.

And the Kardashians have fallen out with friends in the past.

Like we've seen it happen a million times, but this fight feels a little different.

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