Okay, um, guys, you guys already know, this is the Johncast, we got Jay Dowell for the first time guys on my show.

He interviewed me a while back when I first got it a fist tank.

Same thing with a couple of his buddies. Jay is extremely well known in the community of the

Christian world and the Orthodox world, guys.

Like, Jay, it's one of the best people you need to look up to.

If you try and get closer to God or learn more about God in the history,

or if you're trying to figure out about Freemasons and gatekeepers and all the secret societies,

Jay's the man to do it.

Well, thank you. I appreciate that. That's nice words. I don't think of myself as a, that.

I just think of myself as a guy who, you know, talks about fun things on the internet that I like

and I joke about stuff. And I talk about the books I read so that I don't see myself as like a religious guide

or anything like that so more like a philosopher on the internet yeah well you're most definitely

a philosopher that's that's for sure well what's the most recent book you've read that's a good

question I'm reading two books right now One of them is a book that I read. I got it right here quite a bit many years ago, and I never did finish it. So I've gotten back into it to finish it. It's called Fire in the Minds of Men. And it's about the history of revolutionary ideas like communism and socialism

I'm not a communist socialist but I don't like those views but this guy wrote the

history of those revolutionary movements up until the point of the founding of

America and even after that into the Bolshek revolution in Russia.

So that's a book that's kind of giving a historian's perspective on the French Revolution

and the Bolshev revolution and so forth.

And it's good to read because he's kind of a defender of it.

And I would be somebody who's critiquing it.

So I want to know, like you mentioned secret societies.

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