Jonny Say: OCD and the therapeutic relationship (#485)
The OCD Stories
Stuart
4.8 • 873 Ratings
🗓️ 11 May 2025
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Summary
In episode 485 I chat with Jonny Say. Jonny is a UK based therapist and co-director at The Integrative Centre for OCD Therapy.
We discuss the importance of the therapeutic relationship, the benefits of it to outcomes, functional analytic psychotherapy (FAP), how compulsions can get in the way of the therapeutic relationship, how a good therapeutic relationship can help acceptance and commitment therapy (ACT) and exposure and response prevention therapy (ERP), the therapeutic relationship as a way of dealing with shame, rupture and repair, Jonny and I share our own experiences from therapeutic relationships, and much more. Hope it helps.
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to The OCD Stories podcast, hosted by me, Stuart Ralph. |
| 0:05.5 | The OCD Stories is a podcast dedicated to raising awareness and understanding around obsessive, |
| 0:11.1 | compulsive symptoms. I do this for interviewing inspired therapists, psychologists, and people |
| 0:16.8 | who have experienced OCD. Welcome to the OCD Stories. |
| 0:25.3 | And welcome to episode 485 of the podcast. |
| 0:30.8 | And in this one, I got back on Johnny Say, who is a UK-based therapist and co-director at the Intrepative Center for OCD Therapy. And in this episode, we discussed the importance of the |
| 0:36.2 | therapeutic relationship, the benefits of |
| 0:38.8 | it outcomes, functional analytic psychotherapy, how compulsions can get in the way of the |
| 0:44.9 | therapeutic relationship, how a good therapeutic relationship can help acceptance of commitment |
| 0:50.0 | therapy, and exposure and response prevention therapy, the therapeutic relationship as a way of dealing |
| 0:55.3 | with shame, rupture and repair, and Johnny and I share our own experiences from therapeutic |
| 1:01.6 | relationships. OCD can feel overwhelming, but help is closer than you think. NoCD provides |
| 1:07.9 | expert-led evidence-based therapy for children and adults affected by OCD. |
| 1:12.8 | With convenient online therapy from licensed, specialized therapists and real-time support between sessions, |
| 1:20.1 | noCD makes getting the right treatment easier than ever. |
| 1:23.2 | Start your journey today at nocd.com, or the link will be in the episode description. |
| 1:28.6 | So I thank you to Johnny for coming on talking about this topic and also for any |
| 1:34.7 | therapists listening in about five or six days we've got a training on the 16th of May on |
| 1:40.1 | functional analytics psychotherapy for OCD so I'll put the link in the show notes. |
| 1:44.1 | But thank you all for listening. |
| 1:45.7 | I hope it helps and inspires you in some way or gives you some insight. |
| 1:51.9 | And thank you as always for listening. |
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