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The Confessional with Nadia Bolz-Weber

Jonathan Williams, Writer and Pastor

The Confessional with Nadia Bolz-Weber

The Confessional with Nadia Bolz-Weber

Society & Culture, Personal Journals

4.62.6K Ratings

🗓️ 8 September 2020

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

“So what I ended up doing was being an incredible dick to my father. That's what I ended up doing.”

Jonathan Williams is the Lead Pastor of Forefront Church in Brooklyn, New York. He co-wrote his first book She’s My Dad: A Father’s Transition and a Son’s Redemption with his father Paula Stone Williams.

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0:00.0

I was already in my late 30s, which is why I was called a second career student, which

0:18.7

I thought was adorable because it implied I had a first career, which I did not, unless

0:24.8

being a complete screw-up is now considered a career. So when I was 44 and wrote a memoir

0:32.2

that became a bestseller, I had no experience at being successful. I had no idea how to

0:38.2

handle it or who to turn to for guidance because no one wants to hear how freaked out you

0:43.6

feel about something most people would consider to be a good thing. On a Monday night of that

0:49.3

first tour, a man in the book signing line held my book pastrix to his chest and said,

0:54.0

I hope this is as big as the shack, and I looked at him like he had just insulted me. The shack,

1:02.8

if you don't know, is a Christian novel by Paul Young that sold tens of millions of copies.

1:08.3

It's a well-loved book that just doesn't suit my taste as I'm not one to mix my religion with

1:15.0

quite so much send mentality. Anyhow, that same week, after being in a different city each day

1:21.3

and signing a gazillion books and having a reporter from the Washington Post follow me around,

1:25.7

and then having audience members wanting selfies with me, there was a headline in the Huffington

1:30.6

Post that read, can Nadia Bullsweber save liberal Christianity? And it brought on a small panic attack.

1:38.8

I was on a ride that kept speeding up and nothing in my life so far had prepared me for it,

1:43.6

and I desperately needed wisdom for how to hold on. That Saturday, my publisher sent me to a book

1:49.9

fair in New Orleans with three other authors, a mystery writer, a novelist, and a historian.

1:56.0

The novelist was a kind older man with a warm smile whose name I didn't catch, but who I was

2:02.3

sat next to at dinner. Him on my left and my editor on my right, and I asked his name and what

2:08.4

kind of books he wrote, and my editor leaned over and said, Nadia, Paul wrote a little book called

2:15.8

The Shack. Later that night, I swallowed my pride and asked him if we could talk privately,

2:23.1

and I told him everything I was feeling about that week and how I just really needed some guidance.

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