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🗓️ 14 September 2025
⏱️ 31 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, welcome or welcome back to the Instac podcast, Soya here. |
| 0:14.7 | And this week, Robin is joined by Jonathan Spry on a rather interesting conversation involving cyber. |
| 0:21.9 | Jonathan is the CEO and co-founder of Inveloid Risk, one of the earliest voices pushing portfolio |
| 0:27.4 | level data-driven underwriting in cyber. |
| 0:30.2 | In this episode, Robin digs into the nine-year journey from MGA to hybrid underwriter |
| 0:35.3 | across Lloyds and Bermuda, why casual inference matters more than buzzwords, |
| 0:40.4 | and how portfolio optimization changes the game for tail risk. We also explore AI liability, |
| 0:47.1 | where it lives, who should carry it, and whether it's becoming a new class or a silent exposure, |
| 0:52.6 | and what algorithmic underwriting really means in a softer market. |
| 0:56.9 | Lean in, pour yourself a coffee and enjoy the conversation. |
| 1:00.1 | There's one surprising take on the future of cyber you won't want to miss. |
| 1:08.1 | Well, it's Intertech podcast time again and my guest today is Jonathan Spry. He's the CEO and co-founder |
| 1:15.6 | of Envelop Risk. Welcome, Jonathan. It's great to be here, Robin. Hi. |
| 1:20.6 | Well, you're a longstanding supporter of Instects. I see from my records that you've been |
| 1:24.7 | a member since 2019, and then you've never done a podcast. |
| 1:28.5 | That's either because we're mean or because you're shy. Which one is it? |
| 1:33.5 | I suspect it's probably more than I'm a little bit shy. So Inveloc's nine years old. |
| 1:39.0 | We've got a sort of backstory to tell, a little bit of history to catch up on. |
| 1:43.1 | For those who don't know, tell us what |
| 1:44.8 | Invelop Risk does. Well, Invelder Risk was really set up as a technology company. We're founded on the |
| 1:50.4 | principles of machine learning and analytics, but we made a decision to focus on cyber early on in |
| 1:56.8 | our being and have chosen equally to earn our living from underwriting. So we set up, firstly, an |
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