Jonathan Gribetz: What’s Next: Teaching the Palestinian-Israeli Conflict

18Forty Podcast

18Forty

Religion & Spirituality, Judaism

4.6 • 638 Ratings

🗓️ 2 January 2024

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of the 18Forty Podcast, we talk to Jonathan Gribetz, a Princeton professor and scholar of Near Eastern and Judaic studies, about the history of Israel and Palestine.

At a time in which we can feel as if we’re all at war, it may be helpful to take a step back and look at the full history between Arabs and Israelis, to gain a deeper understanding of the challenges we face in 2024. Jonathan Gribetz helps us do this. In this episode we discuss:

What was discourse between Jews and Arabs like during the infancy of Zionism?
When and how did this discussion begin to deteriorate and become often counterproductive?
What can a current Ivy League professor teach us about discussing Israel today?

Tune in to hear a conversation about how we might seek out the seeds of a reconciliation between the descendants of Isaac and the descendants of Ishmael.

Interview begins at 4:50.

Jonathan Marc Gribetz is Associate Professor of Near Eastern Studies and Judaic Studies at Princeton University, where he teaches about the history of Jerusalem, Palestine, Israel, and Jewish and Arab nationalisms. He is the author of Defining Neighbors: Religion, Race, and the Early Zionist-Arab Encounter.

References:

Defining Neighbors: Religion, Race, and the Early Zionist-Arab Encounter by Jonathan Marc Gribetz

The Zionist Idea by Arthur Hertzberg

Zionism: An Emotional State by Derek J. Penslar

1929: Year Zero of the Arab-Israeli Conflict by Hillel Cohen

Arabs and Israelis: Conflict and Peacemaking in the Middle East by Abdel Monem Said Aly, Shai Feldman, and Khalil Shikaki

Clima Twins

Time and Difference in Rabbinic Judaism by Sarit Kattan Gribetz

Genesis 15:15

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0:00.0	Hi friends, a few months ago we advertised the birth of a new community in Israel.
0:05.4	Eden Bait Shemesh, a community tailored made for all those of us in need of a five-year plan,
0:12.7	and let's face it, we are living in a time when every single one of us should be drafting the five-year plan for our futures in Israel.
0:20.5	Our own listeners from within the 1840 community have purchased in Eden, an opportunity which
0:26.4	they will longingly watch unfold into a reality, a shul, and a community.
0:32.1	I am so proud that the leaders behind Aden are none other than Rabbi Benny and Khani Krohn. I know them personally because they are the rabbi and Rebitten of my own
0:42.4	personal community and they are the ones leading this new development community. And I know for my own life that
0:49.6	their stewardship, their leadership is you know this is going to be a welcoming, joyous, incredible
0:55.7	community where everyone is going to be able to feel comfortable and build a home.
1:00.2	On June 29th, Eden will be hosting a webinar to speak in detail about the vision for this project.
1:07.6	In order to register, please click the link below or email info at
1:12.7	Edenbateschemish.com to find out more. Once again, that's info at Edenbateshemesh.com
1:20.2	to find out more. Hello, and welcome to the 1840 podcast, where each month we explore different topic balancing modern sensibilities with traditional
1:45.2	sensitivities to give you new approaches to timeless Jewish ideas. I'm your host, David Bischepkin,
1:51.6	and this month are continuing our exploration of the war in Israel, and we are asking what's next.
1:58.0	This podcast is part of a larger exploration of those big, juicy, Jewish ideas.
2:02.5	So be sure to check out 1840.org. That's 1-8-F-O-R-T-Y.org, where you can also find videos, articles, recommended readings, and weekly emails.
2:12.3	Especially over the last few months, it seems that the Jewish and Palestinian struggle, we are literally
2:20.2	talking quite past each other.
2:22.3	The animus has risen towards the point where you hear things that are simply have no basis
2:28.2	in history.
2:29.8	Accusations are level that the Jewish people are not really a people.
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