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Jonathan Church talks to Quillette's Toby Young about 'white privilege'

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Society & Culture, Politics, News, Science, News Commentary

4.6917 Ratings

🗓️ 20 December 2018

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

Jonathan Church, Quillette contributor and economist, talks to associate editor Toby Young about 'white privilege,' 'white fragility,' 'color-blind racism,' 'unconscious bias,' 'micro-aggressions' and why the Social Justice Left is more interested in punishing whites than understanding the complexity of racial inequality. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Colette podcast. My name is Claire Lehman and I am editor and chief of Colette.

0:09.0

Colette is where Free Thought lives. We are an independent grassroots platform for heterodox ideas and fearless commentary.

0:15.9

Our podcast is a team effort and is jointly hosted by myself, associate editor Toby Young,

0:21.6

and Canadian editor Jonathan Kay.

0:23.7

You can support our podcast by visiting Patreon.com forward slash quellette

0:28.1

and becoming a monthly patron. By becoming a monthly patron you'll also receive our weekly newsletter.

0:35.0

Hello and welcome to the Colette Podcast.

0:38.0

My name's Toby Young and I'm an associate editor.

0:41.0

One of the most frequently written about subjects in Quillette is racism.

0:46.1

As a white male, a cishet white male, no less, I'm never going to win a medal in the

0:50.8

Oppression Olympics. But am I racist? I like to think of myself as colorblind.

0:56.6

I judge people not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character, to paraphrase

1:01.2

Dr Martin Luther King. but is color blindness itself a form of racism?

1:06.2

That's certainly the view of Eduardo Bernilla Silva, the president of the American Sociological Association Association who's written a book called

1:14.0

racism without racists, colorblind racism and the persistence of racial

1:18.6

inequality in America. The reason claiming to be colorblind is racist apparently is that it lets people like me off the hook

1:27.6

We absolve ourselves of any responsibility for racial inequality and blame the racism of others or worse imagine that racial

1:35.0

inequality might have a variety of causes of which racism is only one and perhaps not even

1:40.3

the biggest one.

1:42.0

In the eyes of Bonillo Silver, who's also a professor of sociology. not are in fact racist, systematic white racism is the sole cause of racial inequality and the only

1:55.9

way to do something about it is if white people acknowledge their racism and check their privilege.

2:01.4

Indeed, on some American college campuses claiming to be colorblind

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