Welcome to Hard Talk on the BBC World Service with me, Zainab Badawi.

Europe's dependence on Russian energy sits uneasily with Putin's war in Ukraine.

Moscow is financing its invasion through revenues from such exports.

One EU leader has said Russian oil and gas is being bought with the blood of the Ukrainian people.

My guest is the Prime Minister of Norway, Jonas Gart Storae. Russian oil and gas is being bought with the blood of the Ukrainian people.

My guest is the Prime Minister of Norway, Jornos Gare Stora.

Norway is one of the world's biggest oil and gas exporters.

What can it do to help ease Europe off its addiction to Russian energy supplies?

And can this be done quickly enough to starve the Kremlin war machine of funds and save the lives of innocent Ukrainians?

Yonazka Astora in Oslo, welcome to hard talk.

Now, you've been Prime Minister of Norway since October.

You already have a war in Europe to contend with.

How worried are you that the war will

intensify and escalate? Extremely worried. This is a drama unfolding in Europe. It's a war from

the 19th century being fought in 2022, with iPhones available to see the terrible realities

of what it does to civilians, what it does to

men and women escaping, what is just to infrastructure, and the total destructive potential

of a military machine that has been building up for over a year until it is unleashed on the

neighboring population. It's a dramatic setback for, I would say,

civilisation in Europe and an extraordinary wake-up call to what we all have to face now.

Natalie Tochi, who's an advisor to Josette Borrell, who's the European Union's foreign policy chief.

And now I know Norway is not a member of the European Union. Nevertheless, she says

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