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Jonah Lehrer on Creativity and Imagine

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🗓️ 11 June 2012

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Jonah Lehrer, staff writer for The New Yorker and author of Imagine: How Creativity Works, talks with EconTalk host Russ Roberts about the science of creativity. They discuss focusing vs. ignoring as a way to solve problems, the potential for computer-based creativity, how W. H. Auden used drugs to improve his poetry, Bob Dylan, Steve Jobs, and the creative power of mindless relaxation. The conversation closes with a discussion of what policies might increase creativity.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Econ Talk, part of the Library of Economics and Liberty. I'm your host Russ Roberts

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of George Mason University and Stanford University's Hoover Institution. Our website is

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econtalk.org, where you can subscribe, find other episodes, comment on this podcast,

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and find links to other information related to today's conversation. Our email address is

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mailadicontalk.org. We'd love to hear from you.

0:36.7

Today is June 1st, 2012, and my guest is Jonah Lear. His latest book is Imagine, How Creativity

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Works. Jonah, welcome to Econ Talk. Thank you so much for having me on him, a big fan.

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Now, until recently, creativity was something of a black box. It was a magical, mysterious

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thing. And of course, at various points in your book, you remind us that it still is.

1:01.2

But in recent years, neuroscience has helped us understand more about how creativity

1:04.8

works. What are some of the important things that we've learned about the brain and creativity?

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Well, I think the very first thing we've learned is that imagination does exist inside

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those three pounds of meat. That even though for thousands of years, we, in a sense, outsourced

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imagination to the muses. Now, it's quite clear that it really does come from inside our

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brain. I think one thing, the big idea neuroscience has given us, and I think it's very important

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to, at the outset, just emphasize, just have provisional all these researches. It's very

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much a first draft of what's happening inside the brain whenever we do anything, whether

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it's make a decision on an investment task, or you give people a set of difficult creative

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problems. This is very much a first draft. But I think what neuroscience has revealed

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so far is that really creativity is not a single thing at all. That even though I think we've

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often used creativity in the singular, the term turns out to be a catch-all for a variety

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of distinct thought processes, each of which are useful at various phases of the creative

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